I normally check and adjust the PH at 15 minutes into the mash. But when adding darker grains in the sparge (168 f) and knowing they will change the pH I started checking and adjusting the PH, (5.2-5.4), at the pre boil (after collecting the wort in the boil pot, before boiling). I was told this was all wrong and the PH needs to be adjusted in the mash.