Persimmon Ale? White Ale?

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Oct 9, 2009
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New York, NY
So I just pitched my first batch of beer ever entirely from a kit yesterday, so I'm probably getting ahead of myself, but I couldn't help but envision the possibilities going forward.

So this batch I pitched yesterday I put some blackberry/raspberry boiled with sugar and water into the brew at time 0 (as recommended by the kit I was using). I started to think of other flavors that would be interesting in a similar ale. I was thinking that Persimmon/Ginger or something to that effect could be really nice for a holiday ale. Are there any suggestions for how to pair flavors like that with specific hops/yeast? I'm a total noob, so any suggestions on stuff like that would be greatly appreciated.

The second thing is I see a lot of recipes where people attempt to recreate the flavor of a distributed bottled beere. My favorite beers are Hitachino Nest White Ale and Blanche de Bruxelles (sometimes charmingly referred to as "Mannequin Piss"). I don't see any recipes for white ale in the sticky post- any tips on how to start something like that?