Weissbier Orange Honey Hefeweizen

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Further developments.

The missus was just down in the supermarket and she found orange blossom honey for €2 for 11.5oz:rockin:

Given the fact i couldn't find it for brew day i think i might use it for priming the batch. So here's my thinking. The nutritional information on the side of the jar says its 76.4% sugar by weight or approximately 3 quarters. So if the tastybrew calculator says i need 100g of table sugar then i'll need around 133g of orange blossom honey to carb to the same degree.

Any thoughts on this? Would i need to boil it or can the fermentables be digested by the yeast as is?
 

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I am brewing this badboy up tomorrow! I am, however, doing an extract version.
6# Munton's Wheat DME
WLP320 American Heffe yeast - I wanted a more neutral heffe so that the clove and banana notes do not overpower the orange or honey.
the zest of 5-6 oranges instead of 2.
I also switched from Mt Hood to Amarillo for a larger citrus note....

Because I am going to be fermenting this in an Ale Pale, I bought a new airlock and some vinyl tubing to create a blowoff tube that will still fit....at least that is my hope....

What would happen if I threw the actual fruit of the orange into the wort at some point? should I? If so, when?
 

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i wouldnt reccomend it, if only because it will add chunks to the fermenter and possibly blow the stopper out ( i had that happen using whole hops in a Pliney the Edler clone)
 

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Just bottled mine yesterday with the help of wifey, hydro sample was excellent

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I am brewing this badboy up tomorrow! I am, however, doing an extract version.
6# Munton's Wheat DME
WLP320 American Heffe yeast - I wanted a more neutral heffe so that the clove and banana notes do not overpower the orange or honey.
the zest of 5-6 oranges instead of 2.
I also switched from Mt Hood to Amarillo for a larger citrus note....

Because I am going to be fermenting this in an Ale Pale, I bought a new airlock and some vinyl tubing to create a blowoff tube that will still fit....at least that is my hope....

What would happen if I threw the actual fruit of the orange into the wort at some point? should I? If so, when?
IMO the changes you made will result in a much different beer than the one in this recipe. I wouldn't be afraid of the clove and banana notes, as they compliment the orange blossom honey quite nicely- one of the reasons I like this recipe so much. This recipe does not come out extremely citrusy, and I like that also.

But, it looks like you are going for more of a citrusy beer. I'd be interested to hear how it comes out.
 

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I made this recipe and let it sit in the secondary for 2 weeks instead of the 1 as prescribed in the recipe. After conditioning for 2 weeks, I sampled some and the first couple of bottles were very very very light, almost coors light, in taste and color so I was a little disappointed.
Going on about 7 weeks post bottling, the last couple have been better. More body and the flavor has really come out. I'm going to let them sit a bit longer and hopefully it'll get even better.
 

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Just drank my first bottle, AWESOME. Most likely best beer I have brewed. Big ups for the recipe.
 

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Kegged this last week. It taste great, even my brother in law likes it he only drinks miller lite. I plan on another batch here real soon
Thanks for a great recipe. I plan on doing a couple more from your site.
 

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Just brewed a hybrid of this on Father's Day with my father-in-law - although I added another pound of OB honey at flameout and .25lb of honey malt in the mix with a little carapils.

Just for kicks (and because I've never done it before), I'm going to rack onto about 2-3lbs of pasteurized raspberries in a couple weeks. Raspberry Honey Wheat here we come!
 

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Ekk - after 50+ batches, thinking I've mastered most process steps, this recipe gave me a bit of humble pie. Added honey at flameout, chilled the beer, poured into fermenter through a paint strainer... pitched yeast, and put the lid on. When cleaning out the paint strainer I noticed a thick viscous liquid, felt like a congealed fat. It was also all over the bottom of my kettle. *sniff* HONEY! damn. A little note to anyone doing honey late additions for the first time: Stir it in very well.

Oh well, should still be a kick arse beer, minus 20% or so (I hope it was that little) of honey.
 

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Also, it's important to stir to prevent the honey from burning/carmelizing at the bottom of the kettle. Hope it turns out alright. I learned that the hard way too, but it was during my first full-boil with extract. Nothing like a nice burnt toast underflavor to your light summer ale, eh?

I'll also throw an update on mine - haven't racked onto my 3 lbs of raspberries yet, but I did have an interesting experience during primary fermentation. Has anyone ever had a beer blow off twice? I'll explain -

I expected WL300 with a starter to push this sucker's primary fermentation pretty hard, so I put a blowoff tube on my carboy and let it do what I expected it would do. After the first 2-3 days, it blew off and subsided a bit. I put an airlock on it thinking I'm all good for now. Wrong. I check back in a couple days and my airlock is filled with krauzen residue and overflowing at the top and all over my carboy & the bottom of my freezer - what fun!

The only culprit I can think of (since this is a first for me as well), was that I increased the temperature of my freezer oh so slightly...like 2 degrees. Lesson learned: keep the tube on there until primary fermentation is over.
 

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That yeast seems very active to me. Its the only one ive actually ever had overflow.
 

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I think I want to give this Orange Honey Hefe a try, do you think it is ok to replace the orange zest with an ounce of either bitter or sweet orange peel. I have a packet of each sitting around and have been meaning to use them.
 

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Racked on top of 3-4 lbs of pasteurized raspberries the other night. Kicked fermentation back into gear and I've got another healthy krauzen. That WL300 was hungry! Mmmmmm, raspberries!
 

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Finally transferred to the keg the other night, had a taste and WOW that's tart! Those raspberries really add a bit of pucker! All that matters is that the SWMBO enjoyed the sample, something in which she rarely partakes. I don't get as much of the honey just yet - uncarbonated it's like a weird mix between a raspberry white zinfadel and an ale. Let's see how she turns out!
 

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I brewed up a 10 gallon batch of this last Saturday to get ready for the girlfriends housewarming party. In screwing with the recipe at work to adjust for my efficiency, I somehow just doubled the Pils as I should, to 10 lbs, but left the wheat malt at 4 lbs. With 2 lbs of honey and my efficiency, I hit what I was targeting, just stupidly screwed up the ratios.

But, had a taste tonight after only 10 days, as I took a gravity reading and moved to a better aging spot, and it tasted fantastic for a green, not fully done, 69* beer. Very much looking forward to pulling my first pint of this.

Not sure if the ratio of less wheat malt will effect this, but I did experiment. Pitched 1 WLP300 pack to one 5 gallong batch. Pitched 2 packs to the other. No starters. I wanted to under pitch the one to see if I get the banana, and properly pitch the other looking for clove. Did both at the same temp, 63* for the first 6 days, slowly going up to 69* after that. Well be interested to see if people can tell the difference.
 

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Brewed 10 gallon version of this last week, ended up with an OG of 1.050.

Substituted clover honey that I had around the house, bittered with Hallertau and pitched Weihenstephan Weizen yeast. I zested six organic Valencia oranges and am soaking them in 1 cup of Everclear, hopefully that ratio works well with ten gallons.

Thanks for the recipe. Looking forward to serving this one at our brew club summer campout.
 

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Thanks for this recipe post. It sounds awesome. I ended up at 50 instead of 52 for my OG, but I'm a skoshe over 5 gallons, so I think I'll be good there. Just finished it a couple hours ago. Any suggestion on how to treat the orange zest with a keg? Sorry if you touched on that already, but 'keg' search on this thread yielded zero results.

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Check the "soaked zest" paragraph on the original post. You extract the oils from the zest, don't actually add the physical zest.
 

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I served my version of this beer at most recent Lagers/Fossils brewclub campout; it was huge hit!! Blew through that keg in no time. The beer was perfect for the hot summer weather.

Luckily I made 10 gallons, so I still have a lot more to enjoy the rest of this summer. :mug:
 

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I've always been on the fence about using vodka in my beers. Would it impart any taste, especially when using a dirt cheap vodka?
 

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A small amount of vodka isn't going to change the flavor of 5 gallons of beer. However, I personally recommend grain alcohol; mine had no flavor at all other than the orange.
 

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I'm wanting to serve this on July 4th. I keg. When's the ideal time to brew this? If I do it now, it'll be ~5 weeks.. This likes to get served young, right?
 

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You should be just fine with 5 weeks head start, and yes its best enjoyed young.

Make sure you start soaking your orange zest now too as it will also take awhile to extract the volatile oils.
 

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My zest has been soaking & smells delicious... Two oranges worth of peel in a couple of cups of vodka. I've got two & a half gallons of brew there. How much is too much? What's the best practice for adding it (minus the zest of course) - I don't want to overdo the orange, but at the same time, don't want to underdo it.
 

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It's a matter of your taste so just be sure to add small incremental amounts until it suits your taste buds.

I need to do this one again. I have some 'skeeter pee' that I'm considering mixing with a wheat, but not sure it'll be anywhere as good as the orange.
 

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Thanks for the advice. Put in half a cup of the vodka into the keg. I'll give it a taste test in a day or two, see if more is needed.
 

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Thanks for the advice. Put in half a cup of the vodka into the keg. I'll give it a taste test in a day or two, see if more is needed.
So the half batch of this that I put the orange vodka in is a nice wheat, but not orange-y enough IMO. I'm going to add what's left of the orange vodka tonight.

The other half I put a pound of blueberries & a half pound of raspberries in for a week. That is *delicious*. Absolutely delicious. And very pink!

Both are going to go down well at our friends' July 4th party. Keg of the orange wheat, growlers of the pinky-pie beer :)
 
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