You just proved that the good stuff is in the stickies. I don't look at them often enough.
SHOULD, but i dont think it does
The database is supposed to have only proven recipes. If you find one lacking "tasting notes" or the results, let a mod know so they can be removed.The recipe database is like a Wiki in that anyone can post a recipe in there. Since there's no moderation process, no vetting process for the entry, you use any recipe at your own risk.
That said, if you follow threads in the recipes section, you can kind of get an idea of what's been around. If there's lots of communication in a recipe thread, chances are the recipe is worth a closer look.
HBT's recipe database should only contain proven recipes.
SHOULD, but i dont think it does
Good heavens. There's heaps! In fact, on a goof I went into the very first category and found a recipe thread which, while it contained results, the results were poor. And the recipe was posted months before it was brewed the first time. Even more unfortunate, it was a moderator who started the thread.The database is supposed to have only proven recipes. If you find one lacking "tasting notes" or the results, let a mod know so they can be removed.
Tasting notes can be as simple as- yum, good beer. Just as long as you document that this beer has been sampled! "don't know, not done yet" is a definite no-go.Hmmmm, I dunno if my palate is sophisticated enough to fill out any taste notes. Is there a section in there that just says, it's good, or "it sucks"?
I have to get ProMash loaded on my new netbook... then I will save them all there.He forgot to include brewing software in the infamous "big order" and will now have to wait until next year.
just messing with you the pol!
Tasting notes can be as simple as- yum, good beer. Just as long as you document that this beer has been sampled! "don't know, not done yet" is a definite no-go.
One of the problems and it is something that we hash back and forth a lot is that people post untried recipes into the recipe database (which also shows up in our pulldown menu) rather than in the Recipes/ingredients section...
Sadly there is no way to "police" this....we'd like to see only "tried and true" recipes in the database (meaning complete recipes that have been brewed at least once, preferably more and tasted and maybe even brewed by other brewers) and those become the HBT "canon" of official recipes..
And in the Recipes/ingredients forum we put our "experiments" as well as ask for feedback...Then once we feel the recipe is "good enough" to have other brewers brew it THEN we add our recipe to the "canon"
If you look at my pull down..you see only one recipe in there (and in the database) yet I have posted a lot of my recipes in the Recipe/ingredients forum..at least a half dozen, maybe more...
But I feel that my brown ale (even though I constantly tweak it and post the notes of variations in the thread) is the only one I "stand behind" right now enough to attach my name to it...
But like I said there's really no way to "police" it without coming off mean...some have suggested a voting system...some have suggested that 2 or 3 brewers have had to have brewed it before it goes into the database. But there is really no way to do it easily...
We kinda hope that people on here would just police themselves, and not add to the database unbrewed recipes..Not to at least post the recipe til they are drinking the beer...not the day before they brew it...and put that in the other section...but most new people don't know the distinction...
One thing to do is to be selective in the recipes you brew on here...if you are around long enough, and read people's posts you get an idea of who has experience in creating recipes and who doesn't...Which recipes get brewed alot, etc....and trust the recipes by them...
When I'm looking for a recipe I start with those by people I know on here, like the Mods or some of the other brewers who help beginners because I know their brewing philosophy or level of experience, or have seen the response to their recipes..After those people I will look at the other recipes and see if the poster has updated or posted comments about their recipe, or if other people have as well..to see if anyone else has brewed it...then the next "tier" is those that look like the recipe was written AFTER it was brewed and bottled (once clue look to see if they put a final gravity in the recipe..if there is a question mark, or a blank, than more than likely it was put in there before being tested.)
Hope that helps...But to anyone lurking...post "experiments" in the forum...and recipes you trust enough and have brewed more than once, recipes good enough to release in the database...it makes it easier for other brewers to brew with trust.
Would I still be able to access them from my "recipes" tab?The recipes wouldn't be deleted, they would just be moved to the recipes/ingredients forum.
I don't believe it will show under the recipes dropdown after being moved out of the recipe database, but it would still be available on your 'my topics' list.Would I still be able to access them from my "recipes" tab?
I never put in tasting notes, didnt know it was a "rule" to do so.
Bottom line, making someone say "yum good beer" doesnt mean that it is, and removing recipes won't give you the outcome that you are looking for.
Making tasting notes a requirement, doesnt mean that the beer has ever been tasted, that is just silly.
Yes I quite agree. But if people see a field called 'tasting notes' one would hope they realize they need to have actually tasted the beer before they post. The ones that get by can be reported to a mod via PM or the report post button and they can be moved. It's not perfect but without doing full moderation on the db (which nobody would want to see I think) it's a pretty good compromise.I never said that it is wrong to ask for tasting notes, but people are still going to post recipes that they have not brewed. I am only saying, you can make it a requirement, but that wont make all the recipes tried and true by any means.
Sorry to drag you off topic so far, bkov! It's just that at least once a week we have the same "post your best recipes" or "post the winners here" threads and the whole point of the database is to provide such a resource. We have an old sticky with links to some of the "famous" ones, which can be updated if someone wants to add to it.to me, "tried and proven" recipes are a lot different then "good" recipes. I "tried and proven" recipe to me is one that been brewed by many people, and the majority of the reviews are mostly raves. the recipes appeals to most people. some that come to mind are BMs centential blonde, applewiezen, and eds haus ale. i think if the recipe database only included tried and proven recipes, there wouldent be many at all.
A good recipe to me, is just a recipe that the brewer enjoys. of course everyones tastes and prefrences can vary greatly, so what might be great to someone, can be bad to another.
man has this thread got off topic
Since going AG, I've done nothing than brew bitter. Tweaking it here, tweaking it there. Playing with this, playing with that......Until I get exactly what I want and repeated the brew successfully there is no way in hell i am posting it anywhere other than a thread that makes it quite clear that it is an experiment or just the latest attempt. I would have thought everyone else would be the same way when posing their babies on the interwebz.
Any recipe that I've looked at for pointers, I have always qualified by looking at the responses before trying any aspect of them. You just gotta be careful when grabbing other peoples recipies, just as you would be careful when grabbing a stranger's naughty bits.
Who???...Don't post ALL of your recipes...
*ahem* I'll vouch for yoursWho???
I have more than my fair share...but I think they all have supporting background and tasting notes. I think. I'll have to go through and double check.
For me what makes the recipe database enjoyable are the write ups and comments about a recipe, more so than just reviewing gravities, grists and hop additions.