Oak Barrels, will they hold pressure?

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I have been wanting to get an oak barrel for aging purposes and I have also had this little dream of walking over to the fridge and undoing the spout and pouring a nice beer out of an oak cask after a hard days work. But I have never seen anyone talk about these casks holding pressure, so I don't know how much if any carbonation they could withstand. From a standpoint of their construction I know the sidewalls could handle an immense amount of pressure, but the end caps I am not so sure how they are secured.

Has anyone ever used one of these for serving carbonated beer?

http://cgi.ebay.com/10L-Oak-Wood-Wo...0|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50
 

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But I have never seen anyone talk about these casks holding pressure, so I don't know how much if any carbonation they could withstand. From a standpoint of their construction I know the sidewalls could handle an immense amount of pressure, but the end caps I am not so sure how they are secured.
I don't think the barrel in your link can hold much pressure.
Look at my barrel, made for dispensing carbonated German beers.
The walls and caps use 1-1/4" wood.
Compare the walls to my Wine/ Whiskey barrel, 1/2" wood.
My bier barrel has a coating inside to prevent wood flavors.

German Beer Barrel


Wine or Whiskey barrel


Old traditional way of coating a barrel


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Wood casks are only used for low-carbonation ales (which is to say CO2 @ only 1 atm). Nothing wrong with that, the whole cult of real ales is based on flat beer.:p

If you are just looking for "cool", get a Party Pig and build a cask around it.
 

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They char the inside. Not sure what they are using in that picture. I have heard that they actually build a small fire in the larger barrels as they build them to fully char the inside.
 

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What are they coating those barrels with
Natural tree resin
The new method uses a machine sprayer and rolling machine to coat the inside.

Doesn't look like anything I would want to drink from.
It's safe and all barrels are sanitized.

They char the inside. Not sure what they are using in that picture. I have heard that they actually build a small fire in the larger barrels as they build them to fully char the inside.
Barrel toasting applies to wine & whiskey barrels not German beer barrels.

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In days of yore, beer barrels were internally coated with resin or pitch to prevent imparting oak flavor or tannin for things like transportation by boat from Burton-on-Trent to India.

Wine and Whiskey barrels are toasted to caramelize the sugars in the oak and encourage oak contribution. Toasting barrels has become quite the science in the past 5 years, but its nothing you'd want in a beer.
 

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I have seen barrels being hand built and charred a while back on TV. I think it was Discovery channel or something. Very cool to watch.
 

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They don't much hold pressure, the bungs will pop and if enough is applied then the barrel will explode. I work at a winery and we have a steam machine to clean. We were warned to make sure not to turn the pressure up too high otherwise we will explode a barrel and send shrapnel everywhere. Granted I am talking a whole lot of pressure. If you are going to do it then you are going to want to pressurize low as said above and make sure to drive a wooden bung into the bunghole (a bitch to get out though).
 
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I am still looking at getting one of these barrels, maybe not so much now for serving purposes but more for oaking a batch of Stoudt.

I just can't pull the trigger. Its going to cost me $150 for a 5gal barrel delivered no matter what place I order one. Or $225 for a 13gal barrel. Decisions decisions... :(
 

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More info about beer barrels.

Beer barrels don't use wooden bungs like wine & whiskey barrels.
Imaging storing a Weizenbier inside a wine barrel.
The barrels are equipped with special inserts which can be removed for cleaning and maintenance, requires a special tool.
Each insert has a check valve.

Bottom insert removed



Barrels can be connected to standard or old fashion faucets.
I do it the old way with my special tools.



New style plastic stainless beer barrels with old and new way of dispensing beer.


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Claudius, where do you get one of these beer barrels? I have been ninja googling high and low and I am only able to find Wine or Bourbon/Whiskey barrels. I can only assume that these barrels are quite costly, but I have yet to find them.
 
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