The oxidation thing has been one area that has been a fairly easy fix with demonstrable improvements in my beer.
Same. When I learned (read) about it, I tried it, and wow - hop flavors lasted for weeks and months, not just days.
The oxidation thing has been one area that has been a fairly easy fix with demonstrable improvements in my beer.
For me, it was the longevity of the roasted barley flavor in my Irish stout. As soon as I did the closed transfers, it made a huge difference, and this beer became my wife’s favorite. That’s a win win for both of us.Same. When I learned (read) about it, I tried it, and wow - hop flavors lasted for weeks and months, not just days.
O2 free transfer - All styles improve but especially brown ales, porters and stouts. Quite obviously more tasty.For me, it was the longevity of the roasted barley flavor in my Irish stout. As soon as I did the closed transfers, it made a huge difference, and this beer became my wife’s favorite. That’s a win win for both of us.
Dumper? People put beer in dump trucks? That doesn't make any sense.What you described may be better than what was available elsewhere, but might be considered a dumper by many folks here.
Somebody liked it.I wonder just how bad a lot of that "beer" was...
Did they have a choice?Somebody liked it.
Sorry, I hate hazy beers..... and yeah, I forget 10 years ago was still 2014. I'm more from the HBD days.<cough>
10 years ago nearly pre-dates the advent of hazy IPAs which are NOTORIOUS for oxygen sensitivity.
I would never recommend going "commando" racking NEIPAs. That would be ignorant and irresponsible of me...
Cheers!
Oh, and I'll have to post a roughly 1650 book that advocates not boiling wort. Never tried it and won't....Right - it was either drink boiled concoctions or die from water borne disease
Possibly. I think nearly every clan had a brewer in the mix. Fermented drink was a necessity. I can't imagine it was all putrid swill. There are odes written to it on clay tablets with little poke marks. Goddesses responsible for it. Recipes inscribed on stone walls. Laws controlling the process and amounts paid as taxes. Sounds pretty happening to me.Did they have a choice?
But probably not. Because after allPossibly.
The odes and goddesses were to the alcohol.Fermented drink was a necessity.
I bet you were that kid that popped all the balloons at birthday parties.But probably not. Because after all
The odes and goddesses were to the alcohol.
Maybe to the effect. I don't think alcohol was understood then as a separate component. I would be much less impressed with beer w/o the buzz.But probably not. Because after all
The odes and goddesses were to the alcohol.
If you can walk away while your beer is transferring, you are a bada$$. Excuse me - bad aleck.Re closed transfers being hard, I hook up two hoses and walk away. Doesn't get much easier than that.
The cleaning is way more work than the transfer, IMO.
Do you worry about overfilling the corny and leaving no headspace?Here's a picture of it finished. Gravity just transfers until the gas-side tube starts to fill, then it stops. I work from home and usually just set it and come back in an hour or two.
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Ideally there's slightly more beer in the fermenter than the keg can take. Otherwise, you might get some yeast sucked in, depending on what kind of filter you've got. Those little plastic barrel filters actually seem pretty good about breaking syphon before they suck up too much.
If the keg fills all the way, the gas hose & fittings get cleaned with the liquid ones. The post hardware I always disassemble and clean when the keg is empty, as I can't be sure beer hasn't sloshed up onto the gaskets, regardless of transfer.@mashdar Not a bad way to do it. Do you clean your gas posts every time?
Not usually - the biggest issue I've had is sucking beer back into the gas lines* if you hook it up to CO2, so I usually draw a generous hydrometer sample to drop it a bit, and purge the gas dip tube of liquid.Do you worry about overfilling the corny and leaving no headspace?
Yep! Looks great!Here's a picture of it finished. Gravity just transfers until the gas-side tube starts to fill, then it stops. I work from home and usually just set it and come back in an hour or two.
Sounds about right. I push CO2, and it is about a gal a minute.Is this a good place to mention 'cheating'? I do fully closed-loop transfer and cheat;
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4mins and 35 seconds to fill a 5G corny on a scale.
.. @stamandster recently made a really sweet racking pump rig: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/threads/transfer-pump-housing-diy.734201/#post-10410828
...just sayin'
Well that takes all the fun out of it.Is this a good place to mention 'cheating'? I do fully closed-loop transfer and cheat;
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4mins and 35 seconds to fill a 5G corny on a scale.
Kegs, pump and CO2-return line are all sanitized and pressurized. My fermenters are Fermonsters with modded ball-lock lids, a Fermzilla and sankes that have my Fermhead on them. I simply plug the pump and gas line and switch it on till the scale reads approx. 18.927 kg (depending on gravity..and yes; it's metric because it's easy; 1kg of water = 1liter of water, so adjust for gravity) and then I switch it off and bring up the next keg.Not sure how this works without putting air in the mix. How does it work?
…and just like that, 1974 was 50 years ago.Sorry, I hate hazy beers..... and yeah, I forget 10 years ago was still 2014. I'm more from the HBD days.
12V 'RV-water pump' aka; diaphram pump; Self priming as it creates its own suction at the inlet and pressure at the outlet. These type of pumps can routinely handle pressures from 25psi-85psi or greater..same thing used for the Blichmann Quick-Carb or the 'racking-pumps'. I love these things, their only downside is that you can't use them with hot-side stuff but hey:Thanks but I mean how does the pump work? Does it inject air anywhere or does it find a way to create suction without interrupting the line?
Not sure how this works without putting air in the mix. How does it work?
So IOW you can purge by running CO2 through the lines and pump before hooking it up to transfer, right?Self priming as it creates its own suction at the inlet and pressure at the outlet.
So IOW you can purge by running CO2 through the lines and pump before hooking it up to transfer, right?
Yup: The pump is essentially 'check-valved' to flow in one direction only. As a result you can use one of those cheap carb-caps on the disconnct for cleaning and filling with Star San and with the pump off, plug it into your CO2 and purge it. My utility CO2 rig has ball lock disconnects so I just use a coupler:Thanks. Looks good. So the diaphragm creates the suction and pressure without adding anything in to the line?
Yeah..That's the nice thing about gas diptubes; With every keg I've checked: Classic cornys, modern repros, AEB, AMYCL and even the cheap imports, the gas diptube is sized to end at the stated capacity of the keg. Though it's useful to cut the gas tube shorter for purging, if you leave it then you can fill to a pretty exact amount without a scale by just waiting till it starts coming out the gas line. Mind you; If you're doing an already carbed transfer and you don't have adequate back-pressure, there'll likely be a sizable head of foam that comes out first.
Yeah me too.. I usually blow CO2 into the liquid tube to maximize the CO2-filled bubbles on the surface and repeatedly pull the PRV on the theory that since the bubbles are entirely filled with CO2, the membrane would help push out the last bit of O2...not perfect, but leaves me mostly comfortable. Thanks for mentioning it though because now I'm gonna tag @KegLand and ask if they can consider making corny-keg lids with the PRV raised so as to leave the inside flush against the top... I know they're always looking for improvements on here and they're willing to do so with thier cornys.. I have 5 of them so far, the first 3 came with the white silicone lid o-rings that I had to replace, but they heard their customers and swapped them out for those nice bright yellow O2-free ones.. giving us a lid that facilitates purging seems a logical next step.. Hey @KegLand ..Will you consider it? I know I'd buy a whole set. Heck If I had my own tig-welder I'd get a bunch of the old coke lids that nobody wants, grind out the fixed PRV and weld a new surface mount one on.For purging with liquid displacement, I pull the PRV. More messy and still not perfect because the PRV sticks down past the top of the lid. I still try to run some gas through the PRV when the star san is high to displace that last bit.
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