Montreal school killer

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

This guy is so ****ed up. Why do you decide to attempt to kill so many innocent students?

Wish I could kick his ass, but I can't, he's dead.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/09/14/gunman-shooting.html

 

[Orpheus]

It's nice he had a website set up with pictures of himself brandishing a gun and calling himself the "Angel of Death." It always seems there's huge warning signs that no one pays attention to.

I wish these people would realize that suicide IS the answer. If you're at the point in your life that you're considering arming up and taking some innocent people out, suicide is for YOU!

 

[Axegod]

I saw some of the info..the was 25 yrs old....and said he hated preps and jocks....
What the hell? How many 25 yr olds even think about high school?..the place he shot up was actually a grade 11-12 (16-18 yrs old)....
I can see that a messd-up 16 yr old may be driven to do something bad if bullied (not to that extreme obviously)..but someone almost 10 yrs removed from that level???
Isn't nice that we paid $1 Billion for a gun registry.

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

Wasn't it a 12- 13 so like 17-19 year olds. College prep? Us westerners don't have grade 13, we call it University.

But, yeah. Holding a grudge for waaaaaaaaaay to long. The girl who died, he shot form a distance. her friend was holding here walked up and shot her several times then pointed the gun at the girls friend and said "you not going to die. Grab your bag and come with me" then he got shot in the arm by the cops, then he decided to shoot himself. SOunds like he was a little disrgruntled about females as well.

Two 17 year olds were arrested in the US Thursday with plans to do mass killing of there own. Damn. Glad they caught them. Sounds like after the Montreal shooting spree, people those kids knew phoned the cops on them. Glad someone was able to figure out something screwy was going on.

 

[alemonkey]

If you're going to go nuts and start killing people, do the rest of us a favor - put yourself at the top of the list and work your way down.

 

[Beer Snob]

While I would not argue with any of you on your points. Do remember that this was obviously a VERY disturbed young man. Just think about how many people must have past him by saying... wow... he is really f*cked up... he needs help. And did nothing. Think about your day..... how many people do you yourself pass by. I had a time in my life where I was very depressed. Had oftened cried... was completely out of touch. My friends thought it was a phase and that I would snap out of it. It went on for months till the thought of suicide scared me into finding help. This happens all the time and this young man did 'snap out of it'... all together actually. Especially with kids today. I was particularly honed in on what he said about video games. To many of us, video games means Pac Man, Frogger, mind games like Zork. The video games of today are horrifying. Kids have been trained that "Life is like a video game, you gotta die sometime." If any of you think that this statement is the intensly screwed up thoughts of one young man then you need to think about this again. Think about all the kids today who are harrased, bullied, fought, scared, intensly pressured by peers or families for years. These are the kids we read about in the paper who just shot up a school. They snap. And they are all around us.

 

[Beer Snob]

I really had no idea what they meant when they described him as Goth. Just looked it up... this alone tells me he needed help... really f*cked up....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth

 

[Walker]

I really had no idea what they meant when they described him as Goth. Just looked it up... this alone tells me he needed help... really f*cked up....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth

You're showing your age by not knowing what "Goth" means, Michael.

That's ok, though.... some of the younger folks probably don't know what a Beatnik is.

-walker

 

[sudsmonkey]

I once heard about a guy who's lawyer was using the " Looney Tunes" defense for murder. His client had watched so many violent cartoons that he didn't have a clear understanding of the finality of death.
I grew up with guns. We hunted, we shot, we killed. I started shooting at a very early age. So did my children. We don't have Nazi flags or hate anyone. We're not preparing for a hypothetical race war or the end of the world. My son and daughter both are pure death on a squirrel. They won't kill anything they aren't willing to eat.
I was picked on in school. It never crossed my mind to take a gun to school for the purpose of killing anyone. Guns were there, but they were for hunting after school. We never lost one kid. We smoked a lot of dope in school. Maybe we were more mellow back then.
Today we have many things we didn't back then. The internet, cell phones, text messaging, etc . all offer a broader spectrum of options for taunting other kids. I guess if you texted" Monkey is an A. hole" enough times around school, I'd start feeling bad about it.
We don't discipline our kids like our parents or grandparents did. We can't blame anyone but ourselves. It's our own fault. What are my kids doing right now ? Who cares? I'm online ! Too many kids in our country have never had a spanking. Too many kids have never been told "No!". Growing up without that aspect of life has left our children ill- prepared for the cruelties of life. They can't deal with any amount of difficulty that might come their way.
I'm not saying that all kids are prone to going into their school and shooting people. I'm not saying that a kid who is picked on and has access to guns is going to do it. I'm saying that the one kid in 1000, or 10,000 who hasn't been prepared for life because Mom and Dad are too busy with life to love him and bring him up properly, who also has access to the right gun, who also has been pushed beyond the point of reason by some other ill- raised child might just do that. With examples like Columbine to follow, it might seem like a good way for him to make a statement. I also feel for the victims, including the shooter's family.
Brewers and winos, I apologize for blogging ( spamming?) on this, but I'm just tired of us all being blind to where we went wrong. Hug your kid! Tear his ass up when he's bad. Praise him when he does well. Tell him no when the answer is no, and spank him if he whines about it. Let your child know you care and love him, and this shooter won't be your kid.

Kinda choked myself up, there,
Loving Father Monkey

 

[Walker]

Amen, Monkey.

I once heard about a guy who's lawyer was using the " Looney Tunes" defense for murder. His client had watched so many violent cartoons that he didn't have a clear understanding of the finality of death.
I grew up with guns. We hunted, we shot, we killed. I started shooting at a very early age. So did my children. We don't have Nazi flags or hate anyone. We're not preparing for a hypothetical race war or the end of the world. My son and daughter both are pure death on a squirrel. They won't kill anything they aren't willing to eat.
I was picked on in school. It never crossed my mind to take a gun to school for the purpose of killing anyone. Guns were there, but they were for hunting after school. We never lost one kid. We smoked a lot of dope in school. Maybe we were more mellow back then.
Today we have many things we didn't back then. The internet, cell phones, text messaging, etc . all offer a broader spectrum of options for taunting other kids. I guess if you texted" Monkey is an A. hole" enough times around school, I'd start feeling bad about it.
We don't discipline our kids like our parents or grandparents did. We can't blame anyone but ourselves. It's our own fault. What are my kids doing right now ? Who cares? I'm online ! Too many kids in our country have never had a spanking. Too many kids have never been told "No!". Growing up without that aspect of life has left our children ill- prepared for the cruelties of life. They can't deal with any amount of difficulty that might come their way.
I'm not saying that all kids are prone to going into their school and shooting people. I'm not saying that a kid who is picked on and has access to guns is going to do it. I'm saying that the one kid in 1000, or 10,000 who hasn't been prepared for life because Mom and Dad are too busy with life to love him and bring him up properly, who also has access to the right gun, who also has been pushed beyond the point of reason by some other ill- raised child might just do that. With examples like Columbine to follow, it might seem like a good way for him to make a statement. I also feel for the victims, including the shooter's family.
Brewers and winos, I apologize for blogging ( spamming?) on this, but I'm just tired of us all being blind to where we went wrong. Hug your kid! Tear his ass up when he's bad. Praise him when he does well. Tell him no when the answer is no, and spank him if he whines about it. Let your child know you care and love him, and this shooter won't be your kid.

Kinda choked myself up, there,
Loving Father Monkey

 

[sudsmonkey]

Sorry abou the length of that one. I just had to get it off my chest.

 

[alemonkey]

I really had no idea what they meant when they described him as Goth. Just looked it up... this alone tells me he needed help... really f*cked up....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth

I'm young enough to have known a few "Goths" in college (pretty much all of them were posers looking for attention), but I still think of this whenever I hear the word "Goth"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goths

That's what comes from watching too much History Channel. And (heaven forbid!) reading.

 

[sudsmonkey]

Guess you're just a wee bit older than I am. I went to high school with those same guys.

Try to keep that reading in check. Don't want to be accused of being literate!

 

[Beer Snob]

Try to keep that reading in check. Don't want to be accused of being literate!

Oh no... God forbid... Would certainly not want that....

 

[Axegod]

I double checked..the killer was 25 !...almost 10 years removed from High School.
The name of the scholl contain the word "collge"; this type of college (Sejap) in Quebec is 17 year olds two years before college/univeristy.
When reading about how people let this guy go on being messed up..apparently the parent(s) thought that signing on his behalf for a gun would be good therapy.

This wasn't a messed up kid - he was a mature adult.

 

[alemonkey]

Well, I don't know if I'd call him mature. Scumbag, yes. Loser, yes. Waste of skin, yes. Mature, no. If you're 25 and still brooding on people who wronged you 10 years ago, you're not mature.

 

[Beer Snob]

Well, I don't know if I'd call him mature. Scumbag, yes. Loser, yes. Waste of skin, yes. Mature, no. If you're 25 and still brooding on people who wronged you 10 years ago, you're not mature.

He's a child in an adults body. There are a lot of them around and I'm sure the prison system is filled to the max with them.