Legal to trade brew?

[bleme]

So, even if you went to the bar, sat in a corner, and poured out a legal portion of beer for free that, too, would be breaking some law, correct? That's simply because you are in a bar/liquor store/etc, and they have specific laws to abide by?

AB 2172 made it clear that homebrew clubs in California can meet in a bar/brewery/brewpub and share their homebrew, but only with other club members. It specifically prohibits sharing with other patrons.

This was to fix AB1425, which made it legal to donate homebrew to charities but seemed to accidentally make it illegal to have in a bar, almost like nobody bothered to really read it....

 

[TwistedGray]

AB 2172 made it clear that homebrew clubs in California can meet in a bar/brewery/brewpub and share their homebrew, but only with other club members. It specifically prohibits sharing with other patrons.

This was to fix AB1425, which made it legal to donate homebrew to charities but seemed to accidentally make it illegal to have in a bar, almost like nobody bothered to really read it....

So, theoretically you can bring a Homebrew club sign-up sheet with you. As a requirement to accept a free sample they have to provide whatever details your Homebrew club requests. For ours I think it is just contact details (name/email).

 

[ancientmariner52]

All y'all Oklahoma homebrewers: Got your state personal use permits? You're supposed to have one to brew or make wine at home. Anybody?

 

[Yooper]

So, even if you went to the bar, sat in a corner, and poured out a legal portion of beer for free that, too, would be breaking some law, correct? That's simply because you are in a bar/liquor store/etc, and they have specific laws to abide by?

In my state, yes that would be a huge problem, because of the way the laws are. The business would lose their licenses over something like this, and wouldn't risk it. You can't also bring in other commercial beers either, though. No BYO in places that have liquor or beer for sale on premises, and definitely no homebrew.

In your state, it might be ok if it wasn't given to patrons of the establishment.

 

[TwistedGray]

In my state, yes that would be a huge problem, because of the way the laws are. The business would lose their licenses over something like this, and wouldn't risk it. You can't also bring in other commercial beers either, though. No BYO in places that have liquor or beer for sale on premises, and definitely no homebrew.

In your state, it might be ok if it wasn't given to patrons of the establishment.

Yeah, like you said no one would in their right mind would allow that...just curious

 

[Phunhog]

Wonder if you can donate a keg to a brewery for them to give away as samples? California

I have been approached by a craft beer bar owner to do exactly that. Actually he wants to sell it. I asked him specifically about the legality. He kind of rolled his eyes and said it wasn’t a big deal. A five gallon keg goes so fast it would be on tap and done before anyone knew. Plus with the proliferation of craft breweries no one would be the wiser. Now I have not done this. But I have given out samples in a restaurant....actually they might have sold tickets. It was 6-7 years ago. I do remember my wife and I got a free dinner out of the deal.

 

[TwistedGray]

I have been approached by a craft beer bar owner to do exactly that. Actually he wants to sell it. I asked him specifically about the legality. He kind of rolled his eyes and said it wasn’t a big deal. A five gallon keg goes so fast it would be on tap and done before anyone knew. Plus with the proliferation of craft breweries no one would be the wiser. Now I have not done this. But I have given out samples in a restaurant....actually they might have sold tickets. It was 6-7 years ago. I do remember my wife and I got a free dinner out of the deal.

Daresay which state?

 

[Phunhog]

Daresay which state?

California.....the land of a million laws and little enforcement. California has some of the most liberal homebrew laws of any state. I can even sell my Homebrew as long as all proceeds go to a non-Brewing related charity as part of a special event.

 

[AZCoolerBrewer]

As a clarification, you can brew up to 100 gallons per year per adult, but only up to a maximum of 200 gallons total. So if there are 3 adults, the maximum is still 200 gallons. That's a federal limit. Individual states can set a lower limit, but not a higher one. I found something with the home-brew laws for all states:
http://www.ncsl.org/research/financ...me-manufacture-of-alcohol-state-statutes.aspx

I went through a lot of the rules in this information and it would seem that I’m lucky to live in AZ. Some states get pretty picky about stuff.

 

[itsmymilkyway]

Who cares, Taxation is theft and so are permits Government is just a squealing pig

 

[ancientmariner52]

Who cares, Taxation is theft and so are permits Government is just a squealing pig

Unfortunately, Government is a squealing pig, with the resources and power to hurt you if it chooses, right or wrong. So that's why I care enough to stay out of Governments' sight.

 

[beren]

What if you sat out in your front lawn giving beer away (checking IDs of course) for free?

In 2020 NJ changed it's laws so it's no longer a punishable crime for minors to drink alcohol. https://www.nj.gov/oag/dcj/agguide/AG-Interim-Guidance-Marijuana-Decrim-2020-0326.pdf I thought it was more decriminalized than that but I am having trouble finding out more details...


Hmm realized it was a nero post after. Oh well! still good info to have