The neighbor just stopped in and I gave him a few beers. he went nuts over my CFA so I gave him a 6er of that and a mixed 6er of some other stuff. THEN he asked if I had been in his house since he built all the cabinets and armoires and mantle... I said ' YOU DO CABINETRY?" he said yep anything you want built just buy me the wood and I will make it.. SO someday I am gonna have him build a fermentation chamber that looks like furniture ( I CANNOT find the thread on the REALLY nice one someone built) . THEN another friend reminded me that one of our good buddies has a degree in electronics and can wire up and design ANYTHING electrical...so looks like I am gonna have a decent set up sometime in the future!!!