I don't see the point in Bud Light bashing.

[olllllo]

Saltine crackers, Twinkies and fruit roll-ups are also difficult to make at home.

No point here, jut an observation.

 

[carnevoodoo]

Saltine crackers, Twinkies and fruit roll-ups are also difficult to make at home.

No point here, jut an observation.

But fruit roll ups are good!

 

[BuffaloSabresBrewer]

Ive actually been meaning to start a thread like this. The BMC bashing get so freaking old. I mean its funny SOMETIMES but really its the same thing over and over. Ok fine you make beer beer than AB does. But who is rich as **** and is know worldwide and who is sitting at home typing on there computer trying to look all cool and refined? it just gets old for me too.

 

[ohiobrewtus]

I try not to bash BMC, but I do try to inform people that there are many more styles of beer out there to be tried. Most people don't care though... they want non-flavorful beer, and they want it in a 30 pack cube for $11.99. More power to 'em, I guess.

 

[olllllo]

How about we all fight the fire, you know, where the actual fire is. Where are these unchallenged BMC bashing threads?

 

[paul_h]

Hey, at least it's cheap!
I've just read the thread you guys have about overated beers, I can't believe how cheap most beers are over there.
Our local BMC type megaswills are $35-40 a case. Coopers is the cheapest decent beer and thats $40-45. Crap over rated beer like heiniken, stella, tuborg is $50, and that's brewed under licence locally. Local micro brewed stuff is $45-$55, **** like corona can be up to $60.
Beer prices here a ridiculous, a quart bottle of wine can be bought for $2, but you'll pay $4 for a 750ml BMC type bland lager.
I give **** to mega lagers whenever I can, I like beer and drink a fair bit of it, but I've been out for a meal and drinks with friends and have not bought a single beer because the pub I was in only served megaswill. I hate it and have to struggle through a pint the few times I've bought one, so I'd rather go without.
I've had HB worse, yes, but I didn't expect anyone to buy it off me, I normally pour it down the sink.

 

[cheezydemon]

I bash because rice is on the ingredient list. Cutting corners to eliminate flavor, serving "ice cold" to eliminate flavor, these things annoy me. Also advertising that dark beer is hiding flaws is irritating.

That and I don't like the style.

As a card carrying wine drinking wussy, I liken Budweiser to White Zinfandel.

White Zinfandel is wine for people who don't like wine.

Budweiser is for people who want to drink beer without tasting it.

 

[Orangevango]

Light beer is like sex in a canoe...






f-ing close to water

 

[newell456]

Saltine crackers, Twinkies and fruit roll-ups are also difficult to make at home.

No point here, jut an observation.

True dat. It's not really a compliment- just a true statement that sounds like a compliment to someone who likes BMC.

 

[Yuri_Rage]

So it's ok to bash BMC if the BMC lovers don't understand your argument?

 

[newell456]

How about we all fight the fire, you know, where the actual fire is. Where are these unchallenged BMC bashing threads?

I haven't looked for them. My original post mentioned how I see it in general on this site and run into people who think that because I'm a homebrewer, I must be a beer snob. This is so common that I think it's a well deserved opinions that non homebrewers have of us, and I am more irritated by beer snobs than people who drink BMC. Unless they're BMC snobs. There's some of that too. Liking BMC is one thing- thinking it's the One True Beer is another.

 

[sirsloop]

I don't drink BMC, enough said.

 

[McKBrew]

I don't drink BMC, enough said.

+1

I'm a beer snob, I can live with myself unless there is a 12step program that can help. I figured it out when I quit drinking beer out of bottles.

 

[newell456]

I was actually asked a couple days ago what I thought of BMC (forgot who asked) and I thought for a moment and told them this.

"I generally don't like the American lagers. My first try at beer was Bud, and I didn't drink beer again for years after that. They are just not my thing. However, I have *immense* respect for the technical skill and mastery of brewing that goes into brewing consistently at that scale. You basically have to be at the peak of your field to consistently brew BMC."

This immediately piqued their interest, and we got into a conversation about how BMC is so unforgiving of mistakes and variation. That lead to a general discussion of beer styles, and the golden question:

"So what is it about BMC that you like?" or "What *don't* you like in beer?" and suddenly you've gone from critique to their taste profile, and you can suggest styles of beer that will expand their drinking experience, and avoid making them feel bad.

This is usually how it goes whenever I say something "nice" about a BMC, like to being hard to duplicate at home. It's not really a compliment, (as one poster said, it's hard to make twinkies and saltines at home) but they take it as a compliment, and the discussion of delicate flavors leads into the difference between ales and lagers, esters and all that. A lot of people are curious at that point- some are not.

 

[jpsloan]

When I have conversations with folk regarding my beer brewing, and particularly with regard to how they don't like the taste of craft beers, I come to the opinion that the average BMC drinker is expecting the taste of what they've come to expect from beer.

In the way of a metaphor, I'd compare it to going to McDonald's versus grilling your own hamburger at home. You could do it worse if you mess up, or you could generally produce something that has more flavor and better texture. But... when the average person just wants to grab a quick McD's cheeseburger, they just want that cheap piece of gray meat.

One thing that McD's and BMC corporations do is to provide consistency across a very wide market. When someone pops open a can of Bud, they can expect the next can to taste exactly the same. It'll taste exactly the same if they pop open a can in Seattle or Miami. It'll taste exactly the same when they pop open a can six months from now. The average person relies on this consistency, as it is familiar. I think this is also why many people are so dogmatic about their BMC of choice.

And this is also why I like the term "craft beer". Each homebrew is different batch-to-batch... not to mention bottle-to-bottle, when enough time passes. The complexity of the craft beers' flavors, and its organic maturing in the bottle/keg are what homebrewers relish.

But these same issues violate the impression of BMC, and its unflappable consistency, for the average person out there. And for that reason, they will pass on my homebrew in favor of a Coors or a Michelob.

Personally, I think of BMC as a perfectly acceptable beverage, not relating to my desire for a beer. If someone asks me if I prefer beer or tea, I can't say. It depends on my mood. If someone offers me a BMC, and I'm in the mood for tea, I'll refuse. I'll accept if I'm in the mood. I'll drink anything I'm in the mood for!

 

[Sea]

I have to point out that while it may be hard for any of us to recreate a BMC product, complimenting BMC producers because they are so consistant with an unforgiving style is a little dis-ingenuous.

I'll wager that any one of us could, with A-B's equipment, make our favorite recipes (ale or lager) with just the same consistancy as they do. Once you learn to run a brewery/labratory like that, ther's no more "missing your mash temp," or "forgetting to change the ice in your fermentation tub."