House Joist Weight Limit?

[Tobor_8thMan]

I’ve seen where other homebrewer’s have hoists attached to the ceiling joists. What a great idea. Nothing like trying to maneuver a 5-gallon keg into the keezer. I believe a hoist would be, for me, a tremendous help.

My question. What is the amount of weight a joist, for a house build in the 2000s, can handle? By “house build in the 2000s” I mean a joist with wood on top, wood on the bottom and particle board in between (in other words, not solid wood).

If I’ve posted this query into the wrong forum, my apologies. Moderator, please move to the appropriate forum.

Thanks

Example of the type of house joist I'm attempting to describe.

 

[Bohern]

I think a 5 gal keg would be fine, just get an eyelet that the shank is no more than a half in longer than the bottom 2 x 2 of that joist.

EDIT: I have regular joists in my house and use to own a keezer. I had a hoist in the ceiling and i used it to left 1/2 bbl commercial kegs into my keezer.

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

I think a 5 gal keg would be fine, just get an eyelet that the shank is no more than a half in longer than the bottom 2 x 2 of that joist.

EDIT: I have regular joists in my house and use to own a keezer. I had a hoist in the ceiling and i used it to left 1/2 bbl commercial kegs into my keezer.

Thanks for the reply. What type of hoist?

I guess I can always put a wood runner between the joists and attach the hoist to the runner. I did the same in my garage to hang bikes.

 

[Bohern]

Thanks for the reply. What type of hoist?

I guess I can always put a wood runner between the joists and attach the hoist to the runner. I did the same in my garage to hang bikes.

My hoist was way overkill and is like the one below. And it is still up in the ceiling above the tiles.



It allowed for one hand operation, all I had to do was to pull on one side or the other of the chain loop.

lets see if this link works.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/t...irBtczwwgAMYb2PXsXxoCx1kQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

Thanks!

I'm now wondering if a simple bike lift is OK for a 5 gallon, filled, keg?

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

I looked at the picture in another tab. Looks as if this thing can pull a car engine out!

 

[Bohern]

Thanks!

I'm now wondering if a simple bike lift is OK for a 5 gallon, filled, keg?

Well a keg weighs 60 lbs or less, so any hoist that can handle 100 lbs or more should be fine.

 

[Bohern]

I looked at the picture in another tab. Looks as if this thing can pull a car engine out!

It can, I use race cars and had it around LOL

or try this one, 110 lb limit and locks

https://www.grainger.com/product/1D...ucid=N:N:PS:Paid:GGL:CSM-2295:4P7A1P:20501231

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

Well a keg weighs 60 lbs or less, so any hoist that can handle 100 lbs or more should be fine.

OK, then a bike lift wont work as bikes are not that heavy. Perhaps, with the person riding the bike, but not the bike separately.

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

It can, I use race cars and had it around LOL

or try this one, 110 lb limit and locks

https://www.grainger.com/product/1D...ucid=N:N:PS:Paid:GGL:CSM-2295:4P7A1P:20501231

Thanks. Doable. IMO, not cost prohibitive at all.

 

[Bohern]

Thanks. Doable. IMO, not cost prohibitive at all.

Plus that joist better be able to handle 100 lbs

 

[Konadog]

If you can use uni-strut, you can attach it on a few joist's to distribute the weight, and get a trolley to slide from your keezer to the side. I just attach my hoist to this and go!

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

If you can use uni-strut, you can attach it on a few joist's to distribute the weight, and get a trolley to slide from your keezer to the side. I just attach my hoist to this and go!View attachment 714541

I need this item! Link?
Thanks.

 

[Bohern]

I need this item! Link?
Thanks.

Home Depot or Lowes

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

OK, simple strut. What about the slider. Granger?

 

[Bohern]

OK, simple strut. What about the slider. Grainger?

I have seen that slider at home depot I want to say, block and tackle part of the store

 

[Bohern]

amazon slider for uni strut

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

Resembles my garage door opener

 

[Bohern]

Resembles my garage door opener

similar concept yes

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

If you don't mind me asking what's the purpose of the following?

http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Unistrut-P1834-EG-Channel-Intermediate/dp/B00MH3M7KE

 

[Bohern]

If you don't mind me asking what's the purpose of the following?

http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Unistrut-P1834-EG-Channel-Intermediate/dp/B00MH3M7KE

Just a support hanger for the strut depending on the use. I don't think you would need that. But do make sure you put stops on either end so it doesn't roll out on you

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

Just a support hanger for the strut depending on the use. I don't think you would need that. But do make sure you put stops on either end so it doesn't roll out on you

Yes, definitely on the stops. I can see it now... D'oh!

Thanks for your time and input.

 

[Bohern]

Yes, definitely on the stops. I can see it now... D'oh!

Thanks for your time and input.

Anytime! I know you have a helped me a few times.

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

Anytime! I know you have a helped me a few times.

Well, then "Thank you sir" as I raise a toast to you

 

[Bohern]

Well, then "Thank you sir" as I raise a toast to you

Cheers!

 

[madscientist451]

If you can't pick up a 5 gallon keg without some kind of a lift arrangement, perhaps it would be cost effective to switch to 2.5 gallon kegs.....

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

It's not lifting. I can easily lift a full barrel over my head. It's maneuvering the keg into the keezer without knocking other items.

 

[IslandLizard]

Example of the type of house joist I'm attempting to describe.

About those joists...

They are meant to carry weight on top, not hanging from the bottom, they'd pull apart, possibly losing integrity.*
It's the vertical piece of OSB board that provides the low flexing specs, as long as the force applied is straight downward.

* Now you can hang a distributed weight from the bottom of the "I-beam," such as a ceiling, but not a large weight in a single spot. Keep that in mind when mounting and using the hoist/slider.

 

[Konadog]

* Now you can hang a distributed weight from the bottom of the "I-beam," such as a ceiling, but not a large weight in a single spot. Keep that in mind when mounting and using the hoist/slider.

That's the reason I mentioned a few contact points to distribute the weight, but something to think about.

One thing about the trolley's, depending on the bolts you use, sometimes the trolley will hit them making it unusable. They do make deep uni-strut that would take care of the problem.

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

If I attach a piece of wood between at least 2 joists and mount the rail to the piece of wood this should distribute the weight among the joists thereby avoiding a single heavy point.

I still think this is a great solution when I'm putting a keg into the keezer. I've always felt/wished I had another arm. Lift the keg, slightly move the hoses in the keezer, carefully position the keg going into the keezer, etc. I believe the hoist will greatly simplify this task.

 

[theothermillion]

If you can't pick up a 5 gallon keg without some kind of a lift arrangement, perhaps it would be cost effective to switch to 2.5 gallon kegs.....

Work smarter, not harder.

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

Any recommendations (links) on the channel stops to prevent the trolley from coming out the end of the strut?

Thanks.

 

[DBhomebrew]

You could use a strut nut such as this (plus a big washer on the outside of the strut).

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08H71R...abc_637PJK5BG5C4MJD97WM5?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Or, just a plain ol' nut and bolt assembly with big washers in and out.

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

OK. Thanks!

 

[Konadog]

Just the bolt holding things up is enough, and it doesn't take much. You can see where it hits if you look at the bolt head.

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

Just the bolt holding things up is enough, and it doesn't take much. You can see where it hits if you look at the bolt head.
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Thanks. That's nice a idea as the trolley will hit and stop.