Help with recipe - Columbus IPA

[mychalg9]

First time posting a recipe on here so forgive any editing mistakes. Basically I found a recipe I liked the sound of and added some Crystal 20L to it. I do BIAB. I may want to scale this down by a half to a 2.5 gal batch to work out some kinks first. Is there anything that could be improved?

Columbus IPA
American IPA
Type: All Grain Date: 4/19/2012
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal Brewer: Mike
Boil Size: 6.24 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: My Equipment
End of Boil Volume 5.72 gal Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 5.50 gal Est Mash Efficiency 70.0 %
Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0
Taste Notes:
Ingredients


Ingredients
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
12 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 92.3 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 2 7.7 %
0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - First Wort 20.0 min Hop 3 15.4 IBUs
0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 5 8.4 IBUs
2.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 6 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 4 46.1 IBUs
2.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) [50.28 ml] Yeast 7 -

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.062 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.065 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.5 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 7.2 %
Bitterness: 69.8 IBUs Calories: 217.3 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 7.3 SRM
Mash Profile

Mash Name: BIAB, Medium Body Total Grain Weight: 13 lbs
Sparge Water: 0.00 gal Grain Temperature: 72.0 F
Sparge Temperature: 168.1 F Tun Temperature: 72.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: TRUE Mash PH: 5.20

Mash Steps
Name Description Step Temperature Step Time
Saccharification Add 28.77 qt of water at 158.6 F 152.1 F 75 min
Mash Out Heat to 168.0 F over 7 min 168.0 F 10 min

Sparge Step: Remove grains, and prepare to boil wort
Mash Notes: Brew in a bag method where the full boil volume is mashed within the boil vessel and then the grains are withdrawn at the end of the mash. No active sparging is required. This is a medium body beer profile.
Carbonation and Storage

Carbonation Type: Bottle Volumes of CO2: 2.3
Pressure/Weight: 4.32 oz Carbonation Used: Bottle with 4.32 oz Corn Sugar
Keg/Bottling Temperature: 70.0 F Age for: 30.00 days
Fermentation: Ale, Single Stage Storage Temperature: 65.0 F
Notes


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[Grantman1]

I think it looks pretty good. With IPAs I like to have a few additions 15 min and after, but with your FWH and your flameout addition I'm sure you'll get a ton of flavor out of it. I've been thinking I need to brew a columbus IPA again soon...love me some columbus hops. By far my favorite dry hop.

 

[mychalg9]

Whats the difference between using 20L and 40L crystal in this? Just the color? Does it matter which one I use?

 

[daveooph131]

Flavor will be more intense/ different the higher the lovibond.

I like to layer crystal malts to add complexity.

I would recommend going with .50 20L and .50 40L

 

[sivdrinks]

I have lots of Columbus bur am afraid to use it for more than bittering because the description I find is "pungent". Not a very helpful depiction of what it tastes or smells like.

 

[brew2enjoy]

I just ordered a pound of columbus so I need to do a columbus IPA as well. Let me know how it turns out.

 

[mychalg9]

Flavor will be more intense/ different the higher the lovibond.

I like to layer crystal malts to add complexity.

I would recommend going with .50 20L and .50 40L

Cool thanks for the rec. I'll try that and see how it goes

 

[FRS]

I have lots of Columbus bur am afraid to use it for more than bittering because the description I find is "pungent". Not a very helpful depiction of what it tastes or smells like.

If you can get Oskar Blues Deviant Dale's in your area, that is a very Columbus forward beer. Personally, columbus/CTZ is one of my favorite flavor hops.

 

[sivdrinks]

If you can get Oskar Blues Deviant Dale's in your area, that is a very Columbus forward beer. Personally, columbus/CTZ is one of my favorite flavor hops.

Nice, just had that a couple weeks ago. Funny cause I don't like Dales Pale but the Deviant was good. Know what the difference is?

 

[FRS]

Deviant is more alcoholic and seems to have a way bigger flavor/aroma hop presence than regular Dale's. Other than that I'm not sure

 

[mychalg9]

So I changed my recipe up a bit, mainly because I wanted to do a 3 gallon batch instead of 5:

6 lbs Maris Otter
.5 lbs Crystal 10L
.5 lbs Crystal 40L
.25 oz Columbus Pellets - First Wort Hop
.25 oz Columbus Pellets - 60 min boil
.25 oz Columbus Pellets - 15 min boil
.25 oz Columbus Pellets - 10 min boil
.25 oz Columbus Pellets - 5 min boil
.25 oz Columbus Pellets - flame out
1.0 oz Columbus Pellets - Dry hop 7 days
US-05 yeast

THoughts on this? Beersmith says with 75% eff it fits the American IPA guidelines. Is that too much crystal?

 

[sivdrinks]

I haven't properly figured out how to use Vrystal yet but I'd say yes, too much. I'd go with one or the other, most recipes I see have around 11-12 lbs of base malt for a full pound of Crystal.

 

[Grantman1]

It's all preference of course, but I've found in my IPAs that I don't like to go past about 5% crystal.

 

[daveooph131]

I would still layer crystal as it provides more depth. But yes too much for 3G. I use .75 to 1 pound per 5g batch.

I would try to keep the crystal to 5-8% of grain bill.

 

[mychalg9]

Ok I had to reconfigure this in beersmith and since I already have bought my grains I had to drop it to a 2.75 gallon batch to get my numbers to come out right. Hows this:

6 lb Maris Otter
4 oz Crystal 10L
4 oz Crystal 40L
.25 oz Columbus pellets - 60 min
.25 oz Columbus pellets - 30 min
.25 oz Columbus pellets - 15 min
.25 oz Columbus pellets - 10 min
.25 oz Columbus pellets - 5 min
.25 oz Columbus pellets - 0 min
1 oz Columbus pellets - dry hop
US-05 yeast