Gardening: My Tomatoe and Pepper Progress

Homebrew Talk - Beer, Wine, Mead, & Cider Brewing Discussion Forum

Help Support Homebrew Talk:

Deadalus

Supporting Member
HBT Supporter
Joined
Jan 3, 2020
Messages
1,127
Reaction score
1,197
Here's the recipe. Because I was using slicing tomatoes the first batch is a little thin, so I added about 2 tablespoons of canned tomato paste to the second batch and it helped. Use freshly-ground black pepper if you have it; it makes a difference, and I generally use a little more than a 1/2 tsp.

Chile Salsa
(from USDA bulletin 539) yield: 6 to 8 pints

5 pounds tomatoes
2 pounds chile peppers
1 pound onions, chopped
1 cup vinegar (5%)*
3 tsp salt
½ tsp black pepper

Roast and peel peppers if they have tough skins (not necessary for jalapeños or serranos), remove seeds and stems, chop. Scald and peel tomatoes; chop. Combine all ingredients in large saucepan. Bring to a boil and simmer 10 minutes. Ladle into pint jars, leave 1/2 inch headspace. Adjust lids and process in boiling water bath for 15 minutes.

*Notes: I generally use jalapeños, seeds and all, and I find that ½ cup bottled lemon juice plus ½ cup white vinegar tastes better than using all vinegar (or all lemon juice.)
I've used tomato paste to thicken up salsa but a recent salsa recipe I made had a good tip which was to let the tomatoes drain for about 30 minutes in a strainer. Came out decidedly thicker than previously given about the same mix of tomatoes.
 

Hanglow

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 27, 2012
Messages
1,035
Reaction score
847
Location
Glasgow
Fermenting the last of my chillis, not sure what sauce to do with them. How long do people ferment for? Can you go for a few months?

and where some of my chillis and toms were grown In my little greenhouse, have replaced them with winter salads and garlic. Roll on next year
IMG_20211022_094348383_HDR.jpg
IMG_20211022_171244397_HDR-01.jpeg
 

Evilgrin

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2015
Messages
1,067
Reaction score
1,548
Can you go for a few months?
My last one was a year old. Turned out great using the Easy Fermenter lids. I have not tried the vacuum bag method yet but as long as it had enough salt and the bag aint ready to pop you should be fine to let it ride.
 

Staestc

Supporting Member
HBT Supporter
Joined
Aug 12, 2014
Messages
2,341
Reaction score
3,054
Location
Dallas
Fermenting the last of my chillis, not sure what sauce to do with them. How long do people ferment for? Can you go for a few months?

and where some of my chillis and toms were grown In my little greenhouse, have replaced them with winter salads and garlic. Roll on next year
View attachment 746554View attachment 746553
I've been fermenting in jars with air locks anywhere from 1-3 months. Tabasco ferments theirs's in barrels for 3 years, with special runs up to 5 years!!

I have never heard of fermenting in vacuum bags before. I'm gonna have to study up on that. Seems like a good idea.
 

Hanglow

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 27, 2012
Messages
1,035
Reaction score
847
Location
Glasgow
Yeah I saw it mentioned I think on the chilichump youtube channel and thought it was worth a go. It didn't expand too much, although obviously I made the bag many times bigger than if I was just vac packing to freeze. Going to try it with fermented beetroot too.
 

Staestc

Supporting Member
HBT Supporter
Joined
Aug 12, 2014
Messages
2,341
Reaction score
3,054
Location
Dallas
Yeah I saw it mentioned I think on the chilichump youtube channel and thought it was worth a go. It didn't expand too much, although obviously I made the bag many times bigger than if I was just vac packing to freeze. Going to try it with fermented beetroot too.
Recently discovered the ChiliChump and have watched a bunch, but mostly on growing and not much on fermenting. I'll have to explore further down his list!
 

corkybstewart

Well-Known Member
Lifetime Supporter
Joined
Jun 29, 2011
Messages
3,393
Reaction score
4,571
Location
Silver City
I've been out of the country for a couple of months but a friend has been staying at my house, tending the first garden he's ever had in his 65 years on earth. We exchanged emails today, apparently my tomatoes are still doing fantastic, he has many more than he can eat. He also expressed mild irritation that my jalapenos never developed any heat at all, something I noticed before we left but I still don't understand. Unfortunately he's gonna have to turn the water off to the garden soon, before the hard freezes start hitting. |Still, even having left 2 months before my gardening season ended I'm happy. I canned 13 quarts and 10 pints of tomato sauce the day before we left, I've got at least 10 pounds of peeled and blanched carrots in the freezer, and we ate all the veggies we could stand this summer. And, above all, I have 4 very well established varieties of hops growing in the garden.
 

Staestc

Supporting Member
HBT Supporter
Joined
Aug 12, 2014
Messages
2,341
Reaction score
3,054
Location
Dallas
I've been out of the country for a couple of months but a friend has been staying at my house, tending the first garden he's ever had in his 65 years on earth. We exchanged emails today, apparently my tomatoes are still doing fantastic, he has many more than he can eat. He also expressed mild irritation that my jalapenos never developed any heat at all, something I noticed before we left but I still don't understand. Unfortunately he's gonna have to turn the water off to the garden soon, before the hard freezes start hitting. |Still, even having left 2 months before my gardening season ended I'm happy. I canned 13 quarts and 10 pints of tomato sauce the day before we left, I've got at least 10 pounds of peeled and blanched carrots in the freezer, and we ate all the veggies we could stand this summer. And, above all, I have 4 very well established varieties of hops growing in the garden.
Grats! Sounds like you have done well, despite having to be gone!
 

Staestc

Supporting Member
HBT Supporter
Joined
Aug 12, 2014
Messages
2,341
Reaction score
3,054
Location
Dallas
Edit: no one knows why this was posted on this thread, though I did put some homemade hot sauce in my bowl!! lol

It’s been raining, cold, and getting colder here in north Texas today. It’s 47° F at the moment and headed for the mid 30’s tonight. So I made a big pot of potato soup! :)

091602E4-3E0B-4C7B-BBCB-E76FA76B2545.jpeg
 
Last edited:

Oldskewl

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 28, 2014
Messages
1,059
Reaction score
350
Location
Greencastle
Heavy frosts hit here in PA this week, 3 nights in a row. I didn't have time to go out and do a final harvest due to heavy rains over the weekend. Time to clean her out. :(
 
Joined
Apr 23, 2009
Messages
34,954
Reaction score
14,313
Location
☀️ Clearwater, FL ☀️
Like minds :) I am planning some raised beds for next year too, though probably several smaller ones rather than a big garden. Interested in what you are planning if you will share when you get a chance.
Guess what I'm doing this weekend :)

Decided to put a single 4'x12' bed in my side yard. 16" deep. I'll sneak a second one in after the wife gets over the shock of this one.

1638631823865.png
 

Hanglow

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 27, 2012
Messages
1,035
Reaction score
847
Location
Glasgow
I am thinking of starting some rocoto peppers soon as they can take a while to germinate and the plants themselves are supposed to take quite a while to ripen. Already got some extra grow lights and a spare inkbird for controlling the heat mats. The rest I wont start untill late january/early february. Has anyone done this out of interest, or have experience of growing rocotos?

What is everyone planning to grow next year?

Chilis:
Albertos' Locoto
Rocoto Manzano
Chilaca
Lemon Drop
Jalapeno M
biquinho
Ring of Fire
Pepperoncini Orange
Serano

And I've also got far too many tomato varieties, I'm sure I'll find space somewhere....
 

Staestc

Supporting Member
HBT Supporter
Joined
Aug 12, 2014
Messages
2,341
Reaction score
3,054
Location
Dallas
I think I am going to try and overwinter my hab plant since it was just amazing this year. I have a bunch of seeds to start including some scotch bonnet, poblano, a jamaican red pepper, my chile pepper institute pasilla and the not hot red and orange habs, etc. Not idea what all I will get in the ground. Going to do some speckled butter beans as well, and maybe some climbing beans of some kind.
 

Staestc

Supporting Member
HBT Supporter
Joined
Aug 12, 2014
Messages
2,341
Reaction score
3,054
Location
Dallas
P.S. I found some very old Dorset Naga seed that a friend gave me many years ago. They got misplaced but finally turned up. I seriously doubt any will germinate, but I am going to give them a try!
 

Staestc

Supporting Member
HBT Supporter
Joined
Aug 12, 2014
Messages
2,341
Reaction score
3,054
Location
Dallas
Put together my first raised planter. It's a noah's ark of stuff - various peppers, tomatoes, herbs, etc. I just put a soaker hose in there and a timer. If this works out (i.e., lots of peppers produced) I'm gonna build a few more of these.
View attachment 755094
Looks good! I have not done anything on mine yet :( lol
I like the cool corner brackets. Is that treated lumber?
 

Hanglow

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 27, 2012
Messages
1,035
Reaction score
847
Location
Glasgow
My 6 locotos sown 12th december all germinated, the manzanos have not. I've sown all my other ones on sunday using damp kitchen paper in plastic bags to chit the seeds. Roll on the summer!
IMG_20220111_205540003_HDR.jpg
 
Joined
Apr 23, 2009
Messages
34,954
Reaction score
14,313
Location
☀️ Clearwater, FL ☀️
Looks good! I have not done anything on mine yet :( lol
I like the cool corner brackets. Is that treated lumber?
Yes, treated 2x8x12 lumber. I meant to poly the boards, but was in a hurry to put it together. Might still do the outside to protect from UV.

I got those corner brackets from here. They have all sizes. Lifetime Raised Bed Corners, Set of 2
 

z-bob

Supporting Member
HBT Supporter
Joined
Oct 2, 2014
Messages
3,559
Reaction score
1,302
Location
Rochester, MN
It's a little early to plant any seeds up here, but it's getting close. I just saved the seeds from a couple of cherry tomatoes that came up in my brother's compost pile in Texas; the tomato vine was over 10 feet long, had no disease whatsoever, and was still producing in December (although it was having trouble ripening the fruit), having shaken off several frosts. I don't even know if the tomatoes are any good, but that kind of hardiness needs to be propagated. If the tomatoes suck, I'll save the seeds again and try using it for rootstock next year.

I did start some mint cuttings about 2 weeks ago, and they've obviously taken root and they are growing. I don't know what kind of mint; I bought a bunch at an Asian market. It looks like peppermint but smells almost like spearmint. They are in a pot under some T8 fluorescent lights.

And I bought a new light fixture a few days ago to use for large plants. It's a 100W (actual watts, not halogen equivalent) LED floodlight. It's a little too soon to tell how that's working but I think the plants under it are growing.
 
Top