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All I have is so stick on thermometer on the side of my bucket and it's reading 70*f.
My question is, is this temp of my wort or the temp outside the bucket?


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Bucket, that is what it's taking the reading of. The temp inside is generally a couple degrees warmer during fermentation


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Hmmm that kind of worries me then, I used Notty and it's recommended temps is up to 70*.... I hope it doesn't give me an off flavor.


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I really haven't got a clue mgortel...


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DO you have a thermometer you can use to see what the air temp is in the room where you have the bucket Is it in basement, kitchen, garage, or in a chamber?
 

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Some people insulate the stick on thermometer strip and take a quick reading right when they take off the insulation.
 
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It's in my bedroom closet and I don't have any thermometers to check temp in the room.
Honestly my house is comfortable to chilly, not at all warm.... So I have to believe it's less than 70.


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I borrowed a thermometer and it seems my room is about 60-61*F.


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Nottingham is amazing. I've had beers fermented a smidge too warm turn out fine with it. Perhaps not jaw-dropping, but definitely good.

The beer that you're brewing now is going to do what it does unless you do something like put it in a water bath.

I recommend taking all this awesome energy and excitement you have for getting an accurate temp reading and put it in a simple water bath.

Then by some plywood, two by fours, cheap foam insulation, gap filler and a cheap dorm fridge and making your own fermentation chamber. Can't recommend that enough. I did it on a day off. The best day off I ever spent not brewing.

You'll sleep better at night ;)
 

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If you're not trying to enter a competition, fermenting a little higher (read: don't ferment at 80+ degrees) is not going to hurt anything. You're always going to end up with beer in the end.

I'm working on a temperature controlled fermentation fridge as my next step in homebrewing, but I make beers with Notty yeast all the time and it ferments at a sticker-thermometer temp of 73 (probably 76-78 in the wort). Beer tastes great and everyone loves coming to my house to drink my new brew.

Don't worry too much and have fun!


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Thanks for all the advice.


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There's some info here that needs correction. It may be encouraging, but it's not really helpful to the OP or to other newer brewers reading this thread to tell you it's fine to pitch or ferment at temps that are too warm when it's something to be avoided if possible. There's a world of flavor difference between an ale that was pitched and fermented in the mid-60's vs. the same recipe done 10 degrees warmer, especially with a more temperature-sensitive strain like Nottingham.

Nottingham is my go-to dry yeast for many beers and is excellent IF fermented on the cool side of things. It's also the best ale yeast for making ciders. It'll successfully ferment in the upper 50's (I've used it as low as 55*F) to produce a very clean flavor. But, the "never exceed" temp during active fermentation for Notty is 68*F. Anything above that and it has the tendency to kick off some yucky-tasting esters. I've tasted a friend's brew that used this yeast at 72*F and poured the rest of the bottle in the sink. Then I helped him set up a fermenter fridge.
 
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A ferment chamber is out of the question right now, no room for it.
Well I'll let this cider roll and see what it tastes like then in the future I'll try a different yeast , maybe a safale us-05.


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Agree on avoiding pitching too warm if possible - just saying its not the end of the world unless you pitch in wort that is still hot and kill your yeast (did this once before because I was too impatient).
 
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I pitched into room temp wort, maybe mid 60's. 🍻


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I was curious about the first response regarding the temperature strip not being accurate. Everything I have read from people who have claimed to directly compare the strip reading to either a thermowell or a direct measurement of the liquid in the fermenter has indicated they are quite accurate, usually +/- 1 degree F.

I am curious enough to try some measurements and will come back and eat some crow if I find differently.
 

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I pitched into room temp wort, maybe mid 60's. 🍻


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Mid-60's is an acceptable pitch temp for most ale yeast. It's a really good idea to verify that with a digital thermometer (which is one of the basic brew tools anyway). Some decent ones can be had on Amazon for about $15.
 
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I use a mercury thermometer for checking temps at pitch, just didn't remember the exact temp this time.


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