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You do not count the ground wire in the electrical trade, your talking 6/3 with a ground not 6/4 which would be 4 conductors with a ground. This will cost you more per/ft. with a spare not used wire. What the hell do I know just a 30 year IBEW wireman.
This sounds like general public talk here. I'll shut up preventing going any deeper on this topic and getting in trouble again with facts and codes thus preventing another flame war attacks. National Electrical Code NEC book for minimum standards do not apply on this forum. Just making a statement here and will not reply anymore. Gone silent.

Beemer, I am so very sorry that I didnt know that the ground wire wasn't counted as a wire in the electrical trade.

What the hell do you know? Well I know that you like to bust other peoples balls for not knowing that the ground wire is not counted in the electiceal trade :O)

I look forward to your silence, thanks! :ban::tank:
 
You know, I don't want to bust up in here stepping on toes, but BrewBeemer has a huge amount of electrical experience to share. It seems as if he is trying to help you save a little money on your project and make sure you you end up with a safe system at the same time. I think there may be some misunderstanding here though.
Forums, like emails, do not convey humor, feelings, etc very well as we cannot see the authors expressions when he submits his post. I can assure you that BrewBeemer was not busting your balls at all, but trying to offer his help. Your previous post stating 6/3 with ground was equivalent to 6/4 was in error. I believe he cited past experience/knowledge so you would know that he is not B/S'ing you, but has the background to know what he is talking about.
There is a lot of valuable info being shared here by many more than those posting. If he was telling you wrong, I would call B/S. But he is exactly correct and his info should not be discounted because you didn't like the way he worded it.
BrewBeemer had his balls busted, I thought, a bit unfairly in another thread. So he is probably a little defensive. Don't take it personal.
 
You know, I don't want to bust up in here stepping on toes, but BrewBeemer has a huge amount of electrical experience to share. It seems as if he is trying to help you save a little money on your project and make sure you you end up with a safe system at the same time.

No toes being stepped on here, but

-That’s GREAT if he has a huge amount of electrical experience to share. Thanks Beemer! But, I don’t think anyone really wants to know the NEC codebook is his/your bible every time an elec. question is asked.

-Saving money? Saving 2-3 dollars per foot? Comon now. Really…..

-Safty~
Let’s say I DID buy the 6-4 OR the 6-3 wire.
~Both are the same gauge wire rated to 55 AMPS (safe there).
~With the 6-3 wire (2 hots, 1 neutral) and the not counted ground. All wired as per the diagram. Seems pretty safe there.
~With the 6-4 wire (2 hots, 1 neutral, extra) and the not counted ground. All wired as per the diagram plus one extra wire. Seems pretty safe too.

But I am curious, what was all of this for?

What the hell do I know just a 30 year IBEW wireman. This sounds like general public talk here. I'll shut up preventing going any deeper on this topic and getting in trouble again with facts and codes thus preventing another flame war attacks. National Electrical Code NEC book for minimum standards do not apply on this forum. Just making a statement here and will not reply anymore. Gone silent.

----NOTHING-----
 
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