Dry yeast for Saison?

[springer]

Well my order has come and like a dope I forgot to order the WLP565.

Dry yeast I have on hand

1. Safbrew T-58
2. Safale 33
3. Saflager 34/70
4. Nottingham

I also have a jar of washed WLP004

Out of these I am leaning towards the T-58 as its profile is spicy with peppery taste. I know it wont be a true Saison but maybe something interesting.

 

[The Blow Leprechaun]

Without saison yeast, it won't be a saison. The spiciness you get is entirely yeast-derived.

That T-58 is probably your best bet.

 

[springer]

thanks, that what I was thinking. I am getting the itch to brew and this weekend is perfect wife is away.So I may just throw some type of ale together with the grain and hops I have and leave the Saison for another time. I could order the 565 this weekend from AHS .

 

[Freezeblade]

If you can get ahold of a Saison beer you can culture from the bottle, I sucessfully did that with a 12oz bottle of Saison Dupont, worked out great, if you're in a pinch.

 

[springer]

If you can get ahold of a Saison beer you can culture from the bottle, I sucessfully did that with a 12oz bottle of Saison Dupont, worked out great, if you're in a pinch.

off to the beer distributor I go ....

 

[springer]

well I tried to grow some yeast from a bottle ....



And it worked after 36 hours this is what I had. Left side Hennepin by Ommegang - right Saison Dupont.Sorry for the crappy pic was in a rush this morning.

I personally liked the Hennepin over the Dupont. I will stepping up the starters tonight to have enough by Sundays brew. I was thinkinig of just pitching the two into the same container of new 1.040 wort.

 

[tinydancer]

what did you end up doing with regard to the 2 yeast strains? Did you use them both?

 

[springer]

I wasnt able to brew this weekend as my Son in Law was taken to the hospital on Sunday with a severe head ache to the point he was unresponsive.They have been doing tests on him since . My daughter and my 3 week old grandson are staying with us.


Since both are Belgian Saison beers I did end pitching them together in a larger starter.I let it do its thing and put it in the fridge this am .The Saison's taste was very simular between the two so I didnt see a problem....

 

[The Blow Leprechaun]

I wasnt able to brew this weekend as my Son in Law was taken to the hospital on Sunday with a severe head ache to the point he was unresponsive.

I hope he's okay!

 

[springer]

I hope he's okay!

They did a cat scan ,blood work and today was MRI still no word at least they have him on pain meds. The doc said there is a very good likelyhood that he has a very advance case of lymes . Avid hunter and works for the Highway department.

 

[tinydancer]

sorry to hear about your son-in-law...hope he's ok.

 

[springer]

I hope he's okay!

He is now on some meds and feeling better. There was no real diagnosis other than he did have lymes. Could just have been migraines

what did you end up doing with regard to the 2 yeast strains? Did you use them both?

I did end up mixing the 2 and it went off like a rocket

fresh wort added to starter @ 12 hours

Had active fermentation in 3 hours and this am I found the airlock about 5 feet from the BB. Good thing I had the forethought to put it in a Rubbermaid container . I don't think anything could take hold as the krausen was flowing over the neck.

I cleaned it with some sanitizer and stuck a blowoff on it.

I still cant get around that the ideal temps for fermentation is high 80's

 

[springer]

I had very good efficiency I was around 80%. The second batch sparge still was in the .020 range and I collected just under 8 gallons. After boil with 5 3/4 gallons was 1.070-71. Right at the upper range for the recipe.

I used the Brix meter for the first time , why did I wait so long to get it. I did check my gravity with the hydro later ...Just a little paranoid that I may not have been accurate with calibration of the meter.But was right on the money

This is the clearest beer I have brewed . This is about 20 minutes after flameout

 

[Saccharomyces]

Extremely cool. :rockin:

 

[springer]

I tapped this beer end of Sept. Was a little bit too harsh on the pepper taste thought I added to much crushed pepper corn to the secondary with the orange zest.

I let it sit until last night and man is this beer good nice light mouthfeel just a hint of orange and pepper. Also has a slight cognac taste I suppose from the Grand Marnier I used to soak the oranges I used about 2 cups... I like Grand Marnier I was to busy drinking to take a picture but its Crystal clear with a light head . I have to dig out the recipe and post it.