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DromJohn

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All-grain
Batch size: 5.25 gallons

155F (45 min)
18 lb Tipple (Munton's)
12 oz 60L (Munton's)
45 minute steep 155F

60 minute boil
2 oz East Kent Golding (60 min)
1 lb Dark Muscovado sugar
2 oz East Kent Golding (15 min)
2 oz East Kent Golding (5 min)

Lallemand London ESB
2 weeks primary

3 weeks bottle conditions

First taste: 3 October 2020

SWMBO's choice after a vertical tasting of five Vintage Ales; 2 ok, 2 pretty good, and one worth trying to clone.

This is my first all-grain recipe because I wanted Tipple to dominate, and my partial something norm would have made it mostly Maris Otter. It took 3 batches to do all-grain, breaking my record of 2.

First time buying from Home Brew Ohio, the only U.S. store I found that had home brew quantities of Tipple.

I sent my recipe by webform to Fuller's. They responded with the recipe in percentages. I stayed with mine because the full lb/oz were very close to their percentages. I was surprised by the IPA level of hops.
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Could you share the info Fullers sent you?
 
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John,


Thank you for your email regarding the 2009 VA. A couple of points that may hopefully help.
  1. I am not sure what 60L ( Muntons) is? We used 96.5% pale ale malt and 3.5% crystal and no sugar but you may need it to get the gravity up.
  2. Hops were all Goldings
  3. We would have fermented for 5-7 days then moved to warm ( 6-10C) maturation for 7-8 weeks then cold store ( -1.5C) for 1 week prior to filtering and bottling. We add yeast prior to bottling, target level is 1mill cells/ml
  4. Below is the target specs for the beer;

OG – 1086.8
PG - 1019.5
Alc - 8.5%
Col – 37 ebc
BU - 40

Hope this helps,

All the best,

Guy Stewart
Brewing manager
 

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The part about not knowing what 60L Muntons is odd. Then they don't tell you what lovibond crystal. I suppose you can play around with different one until you get the EBC they list. Thank you.
 

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Well, Lovibond is not a commonly used measure in Europe. I'd wager a medium to dark crystal (80-120L) in a recipe like this, but really that's just a guess.
 

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You got to love the sparse ingredient list, pale malt, a touch of crystal and goldings hops.
Just shows that you don't need a complicated recipe to make a good beer.
Disclaimer: I've never had the above beer so I don't actually know how good it is.
I suppose if someone wants to clone it it must be pretty good.
 
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