Do large yeast starters adversely affect taste?

Homebrew Talk - Beer, Wine, Mead, & Cider Brewing Discussion Forum

Help Support Homebrew Talk:

kansasbrew

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2010
Messages
163
Reaction score
2
Reading various forum posts and other material, I see that a larger starter is beneficial for yeast activity/attenuation. But, some people seem to recommend crazy large starters. Here's my concern. The starter wort is only a poor approximation of the finely tuned wort you brew (it's mostly DME). If you pitch a few liters of that "inferior wort" as a starter, your beer could end up consisting of ten to twenty percent starter. Won't that start to adversely affect the flavor? I should clarify and limit this to 5 gallon batches for discussion sake.

So, at what amount would you be concerned? Is more than a liter of starter too much per 5 gallon? 2 liters? 3?
 

dave5155

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 1, 2009
Messages
110
Reaction score
5
Location
cincinnati
I usually only pitch the starter wort if it's a liter and a half or less.If there is any more than that, I crash cool the starter and decant the liquid so that I only pitch the yeast.
 

broadbill

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 30, 2007
Messages
3,950
Reaction score
562
Location
Southern Maine
For large starters, the recommendation is to cold crash the starter, pour off liquid from the "inferior" starter and then pitch the settled yeast.

not sure why you say wort from DME is inferior, but that is a discussion for another thread.

Hope this helps.
 

EoinMag

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 4, 2008
Messages
1,165
Reaction score
69
Location
Dublin, Ireland.
not sure why you say wort from DME is inferior, but that is a discussion for another thread.

Hope this helps.
Inferior to the beer that you are about to innoculate definitely, in so far as it's DME, you have no idea what's in there unlike the recipe you've probably lovingly designed......
 

mlyday

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 24, 2010
Messages
915
Reaction score
33
Location
Bay City, MI
Yep, cold crash, decant, and pour. Your only really getting a couple ounces of wort if you do it right. which is nothing if your pouring into 5 gallons of liquid.
 
OP
kansasbrew

kansasbrew

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2010
Messages
163
Reaction score
2
Thanks for the info. This was really helpful. It makes way more sense now.
 
Top