Critique Citra Amarillo APA Brewing this weekend

[Heavywalker]

Does everything look okay here, any suggestions to the hop schedule?

Any input is appreciated.


Method: Extract
Style: American Pale Ale
Boil Time: 60 min
Batch Size: 5 gallons (fermentor volume)
Boil Size: 3 gallons
Boil Gravity: 1.090 (recipe based estimate)
Efficiency: 50% (steeping grains only)
Original Gravity:1.054
Final Gravity:1.013
ABV (standard):5.4%
IBU (tinseth):37.26
SRM (morey):4.05
Fermentables
Amount Fermentable PPG °L Bill %
6 lb Dry Malt Extract - Extra Light 42 2.5 85.7%
6 lb Total
Steeping Grains (20 minutes at 155*F)
Amount Fermentable PPG °L Bill %
8 oz American - Carapils (Dextrine Malt) 33 1.8 7.1%
8 oz German - CaraHell 34 11 7.1%
Hops
Amount Variety Type AA Use Time IBU
0.5 oz Chinook Pellet 13 Boil 60 min 17.31
0.5 oz Chinook Pellet 13 Boil 20 min 10.48
0.5 oz Citra Pellet 11 Boil 10 min 5.31
0.5 oz Amarillo Pellet 8.6 Boil 10 min 4.15
0.5 oz Citra Pellet 11 Boil 0 min
0.5 oz Amarillo Pellet 8.6 Boil 0 min
1 oz Amarillo Pellet 8.6 Dry Hop 7 days
1 oz Citra Pellet 11 Dry Hop 7 days
Other Ingredients
Amount Name Type Use Time
0.25 tsp Irish Moss Fining Boil 10 min
Yeast
White Labs - California Ale Yeast WLP001
Starter: Yes
Fermentation Temp: 64 °F

 

[TheCanisDirus]

Here is what i'd do personally...

Move the Chinook bittering to FWH... when given the option i'll always choose FWH over 60. It really does present itself in a more "rounded" bittering profile in the finished beer imo.

Keep .5oz Chinook @20... (humulene offs at ~210F) you'll boil off more of the myercene but retain the more woodsy/piney aromas.

Move an amount of amarillo and citra to 5 mins or less. (5 min to flameout). Both of these have HIGH myercene content (offs at ~147F) and you want that (i assume) citrus kick. You don't want to boil the defining characteristic of those hops away.


If you're hardcore into the aroma/flavor... try the following.

Add the bulk of your flavor/aromas as you cool. This will decrease the amount of oh so precious oils that you lose. (You smell when the hops get tossed into the hot wort? Yeah, that's the good **** you're losing) Shoot for below 175F for first whirlpool/hop-stand addition and stop down to pitch temp. i.e. .5oz @ 170... .5oz @ 100 .5oz @ 70 etc. This will allow the different oils (diff flash points) to come through at different temperatures. Kick your steps down over 30-60 minutes and hit 'er with some dry hopping near the end right before bottle/keg and you'll have a crazy flavorful brew.

Again... all just my crazy, hop-lovin' opinion!

 

[Heavywalker]

Thank you, but that is almost all gibberish to me .

When do you add first wort hops? Is this after the steeping grain and before I bring my tea up to a boil, or before I add my extract? I thought FWH were for all grain or partial mash brews, as there is really no way to utilize the hops when using extract.

They you mention to move some of the Amarillo and Citra to 5 min, meaning keep half at 10 then half at 5?

Also for my 0 min addition you suggest waiting until the cooling phase when I am down to around 175 add some then again at 100 ect... Also I don't have a hop stand so not sure how to improvise on that.

 

[Heavywalker]

Any other thoughts on this?

I was thinking of adding in some Simcoe as well.

 

[Indian_villager]

FWH means add the hops as soon as you are done steeping. All the Citra/Amarillo should be in starting @ the last 5 mins of boil. Toss in some just as you shut the flame out.

 

[Heavywalker]

Okay, new hop schedule look like this, I added some Simcoe as well.

0.5 oz Chinook Pellet 13 Boil FWH 17.26
0.5 oz Chinook Pellet 13 Boil 20 min 10.45
0.5 oz Simcoe Pellet 12.7 Boil 10 min 6.11
0.5 oz Citra Pellet 11 Boil 5 min 2.91
0.5 oz Amarillo Pellet 8.6 Boil 5 min 2.28
0.5 oz Citra Pellet 11 Boil 0 min
0.5 oz Simcoe Pellet 12.7 Boil 0 min
0.5 oz Amarillo Pellet 8.6 Boil 0 min
1 oz Amarillo Pellet 8.6 Dry Hop 7 days
1 oz Citra Pellet 11 Dry Hop 7 days