Could use some help with my Flower Power Clone Recipe

[ilikeguns]

New guy here.. about to do my 2nd brew ever. I've been reading an old thread here about some guys doing a clone of Ithaca Brewing Company's Flower Power IPA. The grain bill is as follows:

94% 2row
3% Honey Malt
3% Acid Malt

I was planning on subbing the 2 row for the DME listed below but was wondering if I could steep the honey malt and the acid malt to get the desired effect.

As I said.. I'm brand new at this, so please feel free to unload any feedback, criticism and ideas y'all have.





Recipe: Flower Power Clone
Brewer: ilikeguns
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: Extract
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 2.30 gal
Post Boil Volume: 2.08 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.75 gal
Estimated OG: 1.070 SG
Estimated Color: 9.3 SRM
Estimated IBU: 75.2 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 0.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
4.6 oz Acid Malt (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 3.3 %
4.6 oz Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 2 3.3 %
4 lbs Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 3 46.7 %
1.25 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 60. Hop 4 26.2 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 5 6.3 IBUs
4 lbs Light Dry Extract [Boil for 20 min](8.0 Dry Extract 6 46.7 %
1.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 7 7.5 IBUs
1.50 oz Ahtanum [6.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8 4.9 IBUs
1.50 oz Ahtanum [6.00 %] - Boil 1.0 min Hop 9 0.6 IBUs
1.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast 10 -
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Day Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 13 0.0 IBUs

 

[A4J]

From what I've been reading, acid malt needs to be mashed, but the addition of acid malt is usually done to lower the ph level of the mash. It won't do you any good for an extract brew.

 

[ilikeguns]

From what I've been reading, acid malt needs to be mashed, but the addition of acid malt is usually done to lower the ph level of the mash. It won't do you any good for an extract brew.

Thanks for your help on this.. I've been reading some conflicting information on this.. some people are saying that it is responsible for a bit of flavor.. adding sort of a "guinness style byte".. but I have no hard facts to go on.

Regarding the Honey Malt.. any problem steeping that? I've been reading some conflicting reports on this too..

Thanks for your help!

 

[jtejedor]

I think you can steep honey malt since it is almost like a crystal malt. While it is true that acid malt is mostly just used for ph purposes it does lend a very subtle nutty flavor. If you have a little victory malt that might accomplish this.

 

[ilikeguns]

thanks all.. I think i'll scratch the acid malt altogether just for simplicity's sake for the first go around. I'll give it a try and report back!

 

[adkrogue]

Hey I'm curious how this came out? Also brewing my 2nd batch and looking for something similar to FP. Would likely do a partial mash.

 

[ilikeguns]

I modified it a bit..

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 2.30 gal
Post Boil Volume: 2.08 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal
Bottling Volume: 4.75 gal
Estimated OG: 1.070 SG
Estimated Color: 9.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 76.5 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 0.0 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8.0 oz Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 1 5.9 %
4 lbs Light Dry Extract (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 2 47.1 %
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 60. Hop 3 21.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 4 6.3 IBUs
4 lbs Light Dry Extract [Boil for 20 min](8.0 Dry Extract 5 47.1 %
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 6 7.7 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [6.40 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 7 5.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [10.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8 5.4 IBUs
1.0 pkg American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [124.21 Yeast 9 -
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Da Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 7.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 8 lbs 8.0 oz
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I've made this recipe a bunch of times and it's a good IPA, however I can't say it's very close to the Flower Power. The hop profile is a little different, and it always comes out darker. I just brewed a batch with 1272 yeast and upped it to 1lb of honey malt so I'll update this thread with what I find.

I'm only 5 batches into brewing and only one partial mash under my belt so this recipe was really just an educated guess based off what I've read other people doing. I'm hopefully going to do an all grain batch soon and it will likely be a version of this recipe.

The above recipe will give you a nice IPA. Not overpowering and I've gotten some good feedback from people who aren't into the "bigger" beers.