My best friend is a diehard budweiser drinker. But i think I am slowly converting him. He faithfully samples everything i brew and usually responds yuuuuuk why cant u brew something delicious like this(as he holds up a bud can). Well since i found HBT and a word called patience his responce has changed. I am now drinking my 3rd beer since learning patience. all of which the bmc drinker has changed his responce from yuuuuuk to thats not bad a little bitter for my taste. So long story short with patience all can be converted.