American Pale Ale Cascades / Orange Pale Ale

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What would you rate the size of your oranges? Mine were pretty large, so it would likely be the equivalent of three normal sized oranges using my two large ones. I'm thinking adding more zest to the secondary might not be a good idea since it could introduce sour flavors?

 

[snailsongs]

OK, this is my official seal of approval..."It rocks!!!".....just one more to add to the list for this winning recipe! thanks Black Lab......PM me your address and I'll send you a couple (maybe I'll throw in a surprise or two as well) as a gesture of gratitude and because I'm curious how mine stacks up to the original. I love it, and I see why Pol was freaking out about the smooth bitterness...it really is smooth for the amount of hop flavor there. this will get brewed again soon! and the only thing I will do differently is ferment it a bit lower, as I let this one go in my office at around 67-68. Next time I'll make sure to keep it in the low 60's, because I think S-04 is best there - nice and clean.....this still turned out great nonetheless.

 

[Spec]

What would you rate the size of your oranges? Mine were pretty large, so it would likely be the equivalent of three normal sized oranges using my two large ones. I'm thinking adding more zest to the secondary might not be a good idea since it could introduce sour flavors?

They were pretty large. Larger than a baseball but just smaller than a softball I'd say. I think adding fresh zent into the secondary with the hops could come out too orange-y. All the concentrated orange flavor in the oil is just going to be sitting in the beer and I would think make it _too_ strong.

 

[blacklab]

OK, this is my official seal of approval..."It rocks!!!".....just one more to add to the list for this winning recipe! thanks Black Lab......PM me your address and I'll send you a couple (maybe I'll throw in a surprise or two as well) as a gesture of gratitude and because I'm curious how mine stacks up to the original. I love it, and I see why Pol was freaking out about the smooth bitterness...it really is smooth for the amount of hop flavor there. this will get brewed again soon! and the only thing I will do differently is ferment it a bit lower, as I let this one go in my office at around 67-68. Next time I'll make sure to keep it in the low 60's, because I think S-04 is best there - nice and clean.....this still turned out great nonetheless.

Awesome dude! Glad you're enjoying it. I've been remodeling my house and lost the brewery (garage) for a few months, so I'm out of this stuff. The project will be done in two weeks so I can get some more in the fermenter.

 

[joejaz]

I'd like to try this one without the coriander seed. What do you think? Sounds like it would be a good one for the summer

 

[blacklab]

I'd like to try this one without the coriander seed. What do you think? Sounds like it would be a good one for the summer

Up to you - I've never done it without so can't speak to that. Let us know how it works out.

 

[undallas]

How much does the choice of crystal matters?
Are there a distinct flavor difference between 10L and 40L other than coloring?
I'll go with the original and use 10L on my first batch.
Time to brew after work on Friday to celebrate memorial day weekned.

 

[The Pol]

How much does the choice of crystal matters?
Are there a distinct flavor difference between 10L and 40L other than coloring?
I'll go with the original and use 10L on my first batch.
Time to brew after work on Friday to celebrate memorial day weekned.

The crystal 40L adds a little color and adds more of a caramel back bone... it is really pleasing. Try it after you do the 10L.

 

[toastbrew]

I just got done brewing this for the second time. What a great beer! I cant wait!

 

[blacklab]

The crystal 40L adds a little color and adds more of a caramel back bone... it is really pleasing. Try it after you do the 10L.

I made this with 'leftovers' once and only had 60L on hand. It was still good but the 60 seemed to hide the orange flava somewhat.

 

[Flounder]

Brewed this partial mash over the weekend. Made a few modifications but kept the overall spirit of the recipe intact. This was my first PM and I screwed up my mash temps and I think I only got 42% efficiency (see my thread in the AG/PM forum). Either way, I'm excited to see how this comes out. Thanks for the recipe.

 

[brewluver]

I have brewed this recipe twice and love it, Has anyone done a 10 gallon batch on this. I have all my equipment to step up to 10 gallons now. I'm figuring that i would double everything( grains, Orange zest, coriander) but what about the hops can someone help me out? Do i just double the hops too? any help would be great.

 

[undallas]

I have brewed this recipe twice and love it, Has anyone done a 10 gallon batch on this. I have all my equipment to step up to 10 gallons now. I'm figuring that i would double everything( grains, Orange zest, coriander) but what about the hops can someone help me out? Do i just double the hops too? any help would be great.

Yes... you pretty much double everything... you efficiency may play very little to the overall IBU... but it shouldn't matter... go for it.

 

[BrutuS2K]

Brewed this up on Saturday but couldn't locate any orange peels as the grocery stores were closed. Bad planning on my part.. I know. Should i zest some oranges and add to secondary or just forget about it? What's the best and most sanitary way to add orange to the secondary?

Cheers

 

[benbarts]

Brewed this one up but with
10# 2-row
1#10L
1#vienna
.5 Ounce Corriander
2 ounces bitter orange peel
2 ounces Cascade @60
1 ounce Cascade @30
1 ounce Cascade@10

I wanted to do Maris Otter instead of 2-row, but my lhbs was out. Today was primary ferment day 3, and it died down a lot so I took a sample to check the gravity. Took a taste for the heck of it, and it didn't seem to orangy, and kind of grainy although the color was totally orange. I mashed at 155. I was planning on dry-hopping another ounce of Cascade, but I really want a distinct orange flavor so the wife and friends can drink it. So dump orange zest with the dry hop in secondary? I suppose one should dunk the orange in sanitizer before zesting? Any idea's on the grainy flavor? This has seemed to be a theme lately, and I admit that I use 2-row as the base for most of my brews, but this is only my 5th A.G. Perhaps my temps fall too much during my mash in my igloo tun, and gives a dry, grainy flavor?

 

[kryolla]

Brewed this on Friday with my new equipment so I can do 5g AG. Everyone recommended a 10g MLT, now I know why. While stirring I had to be careful so I dont spill any grains all over the place. I didn't turn up my propane burner all the way so it took forever to boil so the wort is darker now. My sparge didnt go too well, I got my 6.5g of wort and took a gravity reading from the last bit in my MLT and it was .020. I didnt have enough of MO and didnt feel like opening a new sack so I substituted a pound of pils for MO. For hops I used centennial for the first 2 additions then cascades. My pre-boil gravity was .056 so this might be a stronger beer. I used my new conical and aerated with o2 and fermented out in 2 days with some serious activity. I'll dump a cup full this weekend and take a gravity reading then dry-hop the following week then rack to keg.

 

[Spec]

but I really want a distinct orange flavor so the wife and friends can drink it. So dump orange zest with the dry hop in secondary?

That would give it some flavor but since you're not boiling the oils I'm thinking it'd give it a pretty bitter taste.

My last batch of this recipe (slightly altered as I had posted before) worked out perfectly. I was working on it for a brewing contest we had here at work and I was able to get the beer kegged and force carbonated with a day to spare (although it probably could have conditioned for another week.) The day of the contest I took the full keg to work and went home with it completely empty. :| The beer ended up winning the contest but it would have been nice to have more than a half pint of it. =]

 

[brewjunky]

I made 10 gallons of this just kegged and tasted it. Seeming to lack the Corriander taste I dont know if I didn't crush it well enough or what.

For the Orange Peel I uses 4 ounces of freshly zested Navel Oranges. Its all I had on hand.

The Coriander I had ended up not being enough I wanted 2 ounces but only ended up putting 1.3 OZ because that was all there was in the package.

I added the Spices to my hop sock I'm doubting that had anything to do with it. I think next time i'm going to going the 2 ounces and buy pre-crushed coriander.

I'm thinking maybe I did not crush it well enough.

 

[littlebu]

I want do this as my first AG, but know nothing about doing AG. I can only do a half batch. Could someone explain the process? Just like when you guys say mash does that mean literally or is that just the term for adding the grains? I know I'm a total newb

 

[brewjunky]

I want do this as my first AG, but know nothing about doing AG. I can only do a half batch. Could someone explain the process? Just like when you guys say mash does that mean literally or is that just the term for adding the grains? I know I'm a total newb

go to the section for newbies on all-grain

 

[littlebu]

Thanks been there already, I didn't see a section on terms.

go to the section for newbies on all-grain

 

[blacklab]

Thanks been there already, I didn't see a section on terms.

Mashing is just the process where you hold the grain at a specified temperature (usually 148-158 F) to achieve conversion of the starches to sugars, which the yeast will eventually eat.

How about trying the Partial Mash (PM) version of this beer? You can do it on the stovetop at home, no special gear required. I believe that there is a very good tutorial with pics around here somewhere, perhaps by DeathBrewer.

 

[marc06]

Just mashed this one in, looking forward to having 10 gallons of what looks like a delicious beer!

 

[blacklab]

Originally Posted by benbarts
but I really want a distinct orange flavor so the wife and friends can drink it. So dump orange zest with the dry hop in secondary?

This particular beer does not hit you in the face with the orange. If you want a really orangy brew, you might have to do some fancy stuff like kill the yeast, add orange juice/flavoring and force carb.

 

[Wikipeteia]

I brewed this last Sunday, and hit an OG of 1.057. 6 days later, we're at 1.016, and the taste is wonderful. When the Cascade balances with the Orange, Corriander and my addition of Grains of Paradise, this beer is going to become the beer that people knock on my door at 3AM, wondering if they can have just one more bottle.

Thanks, blacklab. If you need incentive to visit Cleveland, know that there's a night of beer ahead of you, courtesy of a grateful recipe brewer!

 

[littlebu]

Yea I read that tutorial and will probably give it a shot. I am bottling my first red ale next week then I will give this a go since my fermentor will be free. Thanks for the def too, that what I was looking for.

Mashing is just the process where you hold the grain at a specified temperature (usually 148-158 F) to achieve conversion of the starches to sugars, which the yeast will eventually eat.

How about trying the Partial Mash (PM) version of this beer? You can do it on the stovetop at home, no special gear required. I believe that there is a very good tutorial with pics around here somewhere, perhaps by DeathBrewer.

 

[blacklab]

I brewed this last Sunday, and hit an OG of 1.057. 6 days later, we're at 1.016, and the taste is wonderful. When the Cascade balances with the Orange, Corriander and my addition of Grains of Paradise, this beer is going to become the beer that people knock on my door at 3AM, wondering if they can have just one more bottle.

Thanks, blacklab. If you need incentive to visit Cleveland, know that there's a night of beer ahead of you, courtesy of a grateful recipe brewer!

Awesome dude! How much GOP did you add? I've always wanted to give them a shot.

 

[TommyBoy]

I have had 1.5# of bitter orange peel and 1.5# of corriander that has been taking up space in the freezer too long now. This is a perfect reason to eat some of it up.

 

[BrewinHog]

What a great beer! I did have a few bloopers during my brew day, though. I forgot to add the coriander and was running on fumes out of the propane tank for the last 10 minutes. It's all good though. It was a great brew day/crawfish boil.

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[blacklab]

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