carapils in extract

[talljetsfan]

I read that using carapils adds body and head retention so I ordered some for a Belgium IPA extract recipe I'm doing.
After searching HBT about the procedure, I've learned that steeping them with Caramel 60L will make the beer hazy and that I should do a mini mash.
My question is how much water do I use and how much carapils do I use? The recipe calls for 1lb 8oz of the caramel and the rest DME. Should I just leave out the carapils?
Thanks

 

[mewithstewpid]

how much DME does the recipe call for? What type of DME is it? gold, amber, and dark DME already have carapils in them. also, 1.5# seems like a lot of caramel, at least for a 5gal batch

 

[Revvy]

I steeped with carpils in all my recipes when I did extract with grain, and I used crystal 60 often, and never had any issues with haze....I think what you read was full of crap....

Think of it this way, why would one crystal produce more "haze" than any other crystal.

I don't know where that info came from, probably someone's opinion but I wouldn't worry about it.

 

[thughes]

What Revvy said. Besides, who cares if the beer is hazy, it still tastes the same.

 

[Msbeer]

A blind man wouldn't know the difference.

 

[Malticulous]

The truth is you will get starch. There is a thread here about the fermentablity of crystal malts and it showed some conversion by adding base malt. It may not be enough starch to make a bad haze but it is there. A simple iodine test will prove it.
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f128/testing-fermentability-crystal-malt-208361/

 

[dumptruck81]

I recently brewed an extract batch with 9lbs extra pale lme, 1lb crystal 40, and .5 lb carapils. No haze no problems

 

[talljetsfan]

9 lbs...7 golden, 2 amber

 

[talljetsfan]

how much should i use?

 

[Revvy]

I always threw in a half pound for most recipes.

 

[mewithstewpid]

Agree 1# crystal .5# carapils. Even though the dime has it in it already it wouldn't hurt! Good luck!