You want a serious discussion about these to hosers? You've got to be kidding. But I will say this,Canadian beer always has that sort of green hop flavor to me. some more than others. And it's cheaper here than up there. I was drinking molson in a strip club 1 1/4M down the street from the frickin brewery in the late 80's-early 90's. Each bottle was $3.18 a piece!