brew rig

Homebrew Talk - Beer, Wine, Mead, & Cider Brewing Discussion Forum

Help Support Homebrew Talk:

jcalisi

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2009
Messages
176
Reaction score
3
Location
Mount Juliet, TN
So I've read all of the threads on how great the Brutus 10 is and I get it. Nice simple clean rig. At first I was set on a gas HERMS and got the appropriate Keggles for it but now I think I like the brutus 10 cause of simplicity.

So the real question what are the negatives of using a Brutus setup? I'm ready to put my part list together but can't find enough information to make my decision.

btw one of my keggles is coated with that black insulation which I was going to use for my mt in the HERMS.

thanks an advance I thank I've become addicted to this site... I guess its time to get my membership.
 

1234

Banned
Joined
Mar 8, 2009
Messages
1,520
Reaction score
7
Location
Hendersonville, TN
Let me know what it costs when you get the parts list done, as we are about 25 minutes from one another.
 
OP
jcalisi

jcalisi

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2009
Messages
176
Reaction score
3
Location
Mount Juliet, TN
Lonnie,

no doubt on your biased but its well worth it from where I'm standing.

1234 - I'll let you know what I come up with.
 

nicksteck

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 28, 2007
Messages
182
Reaction score
0
Location
St. Paul, MN
i just built kind of a Brutus 10 and have a lot of pics in my gallary and i have a post of the build. it may help you with your material list

good luck,

Nick
 

Desert_Sky

Since 1998
Joined
Mar 8, 2006
Messages
4,250
Reaction score
203
Location
Boulder
Let me know what it costs when you get the parts list done, as we are about 25 minutes from one another.
get a quote from your welder, and decide on what type of steel you are going to use...SS or reg steel. I paid 600 for the steel and frame, but the welder was a friend of mine. I think total cost was 1500-1800 I forget
 

Lonnie Mac

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 28, 2006
Messages
304
Reaction score
10
Location
Bacliff, TX
i just built kind of a Brutus 10 and have a lot of pics in my gallary and i have a post of the build. it may help you with your material list

good luck,

Nick
kind of a Brutus 10 my ass. You take the cake my friend! That is ONE SWEET BUILD!
 
OP
jcalisi

jcalisi

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2009
Messages
176
Reaction score
3
Location
Mount Juliet, TN
I remember coming across that thread very nice build Nick. I would hope my turns out to be half as good. I think I'm going to weld up the frame myself. I have a Miller 135 that should do nicely, but I'm thinking stainless is a bit to salty for me. I might swing by the local scrap yards to see what they have first. I'll leave the kettle welds to my local pro with a tig.
 

Snake10

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 31, 2008
Messages
203
Reaction score
10
Location
Denton,Tx
A Brutus is the only way to go. This forum has some really good support for a Brutus build also. Once you start building you really get into it. Plus, Lonnie Mac (the original builder) pops in sometimes to answer questions like he did above. I personally just finished mine and have only made a test run. The fun part is looking for the parts. I found that my local metal salvage had tons of supplies including my kegs. All on the cheap. So far, my build is over $1000 for sure because of the pumps, stc valves, switches, love controllers, silicone tubing, and QD'd and my heat exchanger. My stand metal is 2x2 1/8th steel ($120.00 including cuts),$100 powdercoat. Its the details that add up. My wife is on my tail now because , "i just need one more thing!". The bottom line, the Brutus design is really simple but at the same time complex. Look at the November 2007 issue of Brew your own magazine to get a good start. I am currently building stainless inserts which will raise my kegs and get them off my powder coat and shield from the heat (that is my hope). I also built a center beam to rest my burners on so that you could adjust burner height easily. Go for it. PS I have tons of pics from my build PM me is your interested and I'll email them to you.
Bartman

IMG_19011.JPG
 

nicksteck

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 28, 2007
Messages
182
Reaction score
0
Location
St. Paul, MN
I remember coming across that thread very nice build Nick. I would hope my turns out to be half as good. I think I'm going to weld up the frame myself. I have a Miller 135 that should do nicely, but I'm thinking stainless is a bit to salty for me. I might swing by the local scrap yards to see what they have first. I'll leave the kettle welds to my local pro with a tig.
i used the same exact welder, i brought my cut list to metalsupermarket and they cut all my tube to length for $175.00 and my rig is alot bigger than a brutus 10. i used 1/16 steel and have no flex at all but i do have 2 supports in the front and back

i also did not mes with my kegs, i've seen to many welding gone bad pics.
 

MNBugeater

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 15, 2006
Messages
945
Reaction score
14
Location
Minneapolis, MN
As mentioned above there are 2-3 really good threads on the Single Tier / Brutus design. Also there are alot of 'side conversations' on automation, gas valves, burners, etc. Seems like every spring there are a dozen or more new builds and the collaboration between forum members really helps.

Here are a couple that really helped me last year on my build...

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/brutus-ten-44403/
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/asco-red-hat-valves-50945/
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/love-temp-controller-series-ts-wiring-diagram-2008-a-88369/
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/spark-ignition-brutus-67922/
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/gas-burners-love-ts-pilot-light-demo-64899/
 

Gordie

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 21, 2008
Messages
381
Reaction score
33
Location
Healdsburg, CA
Brutus 10 is brilliant. HUGE prost to Lonnie. The design is a great balance of simplicity and complexity. Its also a great platform for modifications and customizing elements and systems. A build exactly like Lonnie's is super sound, has great repeatability, is solid and reliable and still is easy to troubleshoot if something seems not quite right. At the same time, you can swap out a burner for a RIMS heat exchanger, plum a HERMS coil and automate almost everything within an inch of its life if you want to tinker. In terms of down-sides, I can't really think of any. At first it take some experimentation to get the flow rate right when recirculating the mash, but that's just getting to know your system. Can't recommend it too much. And the community of Brutus users on HBT are invaluable. My rig is in my gallery if you want to take a look. I purposefully oversized and overbuilt it.

Gordie.
 
OP
jcalisi

jcalisi

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 11, 2009
Messages
176
Reaction score
3
Location
Mount Juliet, TN
guys thanks for all of your input. You have already saved me some time... I didn't even think about having the supplier pre-cut my tubbing. I have the back issue of byo ordered. Hopefully soon I'll start sourcing parts and posting pics... and now back to taxes :(
 

Lonnie Mac

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 28, 2006
Messages
304
Reaction score
10
Location
Bacliff, TX
Thanks for purchasing the back-issue my friend... Now I do not make a penny from that, it's just that I am a BYO fan! I just ordered three of the new special Brutus issues tonight myself before they are all gone too! :)

PM sent...
 
Top