lone_wolf
Well-Known Member
Senores e senoritas
long story short, ever since starting on this home brewing journey about 6 months ago, I have had carbonation issues that I feel were rooted in the use of flip-top bottles (ie despite the fact I bought them new, I think some of the swing/bale mechanisms were faulty out of the box). Always had about 1/2 dozen bottles in a 2 dozen batch with zero carbonation after 3-4 weeks.
..anyway (sniff) on that basis I started saving my empties (mix of 330ml and 500ml bottles) and bought a bench capper, the idea being to a) bottle a batch across a mixture of capped and swing top bottles and assuming my assumption was correct b) migrate away from the swing tops.
In a perverse twist of fate though, while I am still opening some duds from the flip top bottles - the goddamn capped bottles are showing even less signs of carbonation. So heres my theory:
(firstly, priming dose was 100g of corn sugar for 5 gallons)
secondly, the basic theory of bottle carbonation is that fermentation restarts in the bottle, produces CO2 which fills the headspace in the bottle to critical mass at which point it starts to diffuse back into the beer. right?
So with this in mind I'm thinking that given the headspaces in a 330ml, 500ml and 750ml bottle are about the same, but the quantity of yeast in each is quite different, larger bottles would (might?) carb up faster than smaller ones - or is that offset by the larger volume of beer that requires carbing.
Its a bit of an academic discussion as I am thoroughly sick of the bullsh*t and unpredictability that you get for free with bottle carbonation and plan to go to kegs soon enough, but an answer to this could be useful at those tough dinner party gigs.. thoughts?
long story short, ever since starting on this home brewing journey about 6 months ago, I have had carbonation issues that I feel were rooted in the use of flip-top bottles (ie despite the fact I bought them new, I think some of the swing/bale mechanisms were faulty out of the box). Always had about 1/2 dozen bottles in a 2 dozen batch with zero carbonation after 3-4 weeks.
..anyway (sniff) on that basis I started saving my empties (mix of 330ml and 500ml bottles) and bought a bench capper, the idea being to a) bottle a batch across a mixture of capped and swing top bottles and assuming my assumption was correct b) migrate away from the swing tops.
In a perverse twist of fate though, while I am still opening some duds from the flip top bottles - the goddamn capped bottles are showing even less signs of carbonation. So heres my theory:
(firstly, priming dose was 100g of corn sugar for 5 gallons)
secondly, the basic theory of bottle carbonation is that fermentation restarts in the bottle, produces CO2 which fills the headspace in the bottle to critical mass at which point it starts to diffuse back into the beer. right?
So with this in mind I'm thinking that given the headspaces in a 330ml, 500ml and 750ml bottle are about the same, but the quantity of yeast in each is quite different, larger bottles would (might?) carb up faster than smaller ones - or is that offset by the larger volume of beer that requires carbing.
Its a bit of an academic discussion as I am thoroughly sick of the bullsh*t and unpredictability that you get for free with bottle carbonation and plan to go to kegs soon enough, but an answer to this could be useful at those tough dinner party gigs.. thoughts?