Bissell Bucolia clone - ish?

[cvisinho]

Good afternoon,

I have been thinking of whipping up something similar to Bucolia from Bissell bros.
Thing is I just received 2lbs of wet whole cone cascade. So I will be using those for flavor/aroma. I have some Magnum laying around for bittering.

Anyone try to brew this beer or something close?

I'm looking for that spicy redish dankness specifically, with low IBU.

I was thinking
- 2 row
- C30
-Munich
- Flaked rye

I'm going to try out London 3 on this most likely... or 007...

Thoughts?

 

[skibb]

If ever I'm trying to clone a recipe I first look at their website or other sources of information to see if they've published any ingredients, gravities, etc.
Via Beeradvocate:

ABV: 5.6% OG: 1.054
Hops: Simcoe, Merkur, Centennial, Chinook
Malts: Pilsner, Vienna, Munich, Red X, Malted Wheat, Melanoidin

Looks like you aren't too far off!

 

[cvisinho]

I saw that, I ended up changing things around per usual though. Ill probably mess with the hop additions a little. Hopefully my bazooka tube can handle all the whole cone I will be using.

Type: All Grain Date: 12 Sep 2016
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.00 gal Brewer:
Boil Size: 6.53 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: Pot and Cooler ( 5 Gal/19 L) - All Grain
End of Boil Volume 5.99 gal Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 4.60 gal Est Mash Efficiency 82.8 %
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0
Taste Notes:
Ingredients

Ingredients Amt Name Type # %/IBU
5 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 45.5 %
3 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2 27.3 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 3 13.6 %
8.0 oz Rye, Flaked (2.0 SRM) Grain 4 4.5 %
8.0 oz Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 5 4.5 %
8.0 oz Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 6 4.5 %
0.50 oz Columbus/Tomahawk/Zeus (CTZ) [15.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 7 25.6 IBUs
0.25 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 8 2.5 IBUs
0.25 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 1.5 IBUs
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 10 6.6 IBUs
3.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0.0 min Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg London Ale III (Wyeast Labs #1318) [124.21 ml] Yeast 12 -
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs


Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.056 SG Measured Original Gravity: 1.046 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.7 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 4.7 %
Bitterness: 36.2 IBUs Calories: 151.6 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 13.9 SRM

 

[cvisinho]

Totally getting out of hand over here. This is what happens when I have to wait for brew day. I have 4 revisions of this recipe so far.

Thoughts

Amt Name Type # %/IBU
5 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 44.4 %
2 lbs Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 2 17.8 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 3 8.9 %
1 lbs Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 4 8.9 %
1 lbs Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 5 8.9 %
12.0 oz Rye, Flaked (2.0 SRM) Grain 6 6.7 %
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 7 4.4 %
0.50 oz Columbus/Tomahawk/Zeus (CTZ) [15.50 %] - Hop 8 25.2 IBUs
0.25 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 1.5 IBUs
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 10 6.5 IBUs
3.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool 0.0 Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg London Ale III (Wyeast Labs #1318) [124. Yeast 12 -
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days Hop 14 0.0 IBUs

 

[m00ps]

if that cascade is wet hops, I think you need at least triple the amounts of hops in there.

 

[cvisinho]

Yeah. Wet whole cone. I easilly have enough to add more. I was under the assumption the variance was minimal from pellet to whole. Around 10%?

 

[Soupy]

So how was it? Also interested in trying this recipe. How long did you ferment for? 1 week in primary another week in Secondary?

 

[cvisinho]

I may have added a touch too much rye and not enough hops. Just my personal assessment. But I'm always hard on myself when it comes to beer.
I filled 4 bottles and have tried one every weekend to figure when to tap. It's cleaning up nice for sure. I think I'll tap the keg this Sunday. Very well balanced though and tasty for sure. If you like well balanced rye beers this is pretty damn good. I was just hoping for more of that pillowy mouthfeel ultimately.