American Pale Ale Bee Cave Brewery Haus Pale Ale

[EdWort]

Noob question. So if I want to mash at 152 like in the recipe what temp should my strike water be in order to hit 152?

Go here. Bookmark it. I use it all the time.

http://www.rackers.org/calcs.shtml

 

[Spyk'd]

Noob question. So if I want to mash at 152 like in the recipe what temp should my strike water be in order to hit 152?

Only your system will tell you.


I started out by heating my mash tun and then using a calculator for my strike temperature and it was ALWAYS off by between 6-10 degrees. Then I switched to the overheating method and have had great success.

What I mean by overheating is that I overheat the strike water to not only account for the temperature of the grain, but also the cooling effects of the mash tun (cooler). Now I can hit any temperature I want at any given time with my same system. As long as no variables change, I'm good.

For example, if I want to hit 154 on MY system, I overheat to 183. How do I know this? Because I've tested MY system and this is what MY system does. On a side note, I MAY keep my house a bit coooooool...

So go test your system and see what it does, but expect at least a 15 degree drop and maybe a 25+ degree drop. The worst case scenario will be you heating more strike water or boiling a part of your mash (welcome to decoction). At least you'll know what to expect from that point on.

 

[EdWort]

Yep. Test Spikes method. I use a cooler as a MLT and I preheat it for 10-15 minutes with hot tap water. The calc tool then hits my numbers every time. You need to know the temp of your grain though.

 

[BuffaloSabresBrewer]

Thanks thats an awesome calculator. Brew day is tomorrow so I'll update with my progress tomorrow. SWMBO is assisting with the first AG. She loves to brew almost as much as I do. I'll post pictures tomorrow.

 

[newguy]

Hey Ed,

Was wondering if you ever got to that keg of yours with the Safale US-05? I'm going to be brewing up your pale on Saturday. I'm still planning on using the Safale yeast was just wondering what you thought of the differences having brewed both. I have Nottingham's on hand as well.

Really looking forward to my first AG!

Cheers,

 

[Lil' Sparky]

I know the Q was for Ed, but I did mine with S-05 and it turned out GREAT!!!

 

[EdWort]

Hey Ed,

Was wondering if you ever got to that keg of yours with the Safale US-05? I'm going to be brewing up your pale on Saturday. I'm still planning on using the Safale yeast was just wondering what you thought of the differences having brewed both. I have Nottingham's on hand as well.

Really looking forward to my first AG!

Cheers,

I don't know yet. I have yet to tap it, but I'm sure it will be just as tasty as others that have used it have pointed out.

 

[newguy]

I know the Q was for Ed, but I did mine with S-05 and it turned out GREAT!!!

Sweet thanks Sparky and Ed. Yeah I was just wondering from someone who has done the brew with Nottingham's and with the Safale. I have no doubt it will be great!

I think I'm going to go ahead and stick with the Safale. I've never used any of the Safale yeasts before so it should be nice to see what flavor profile it gives!

I plan to take some pics, should be an interesting. Weather is not looking that great, but I've brewed when it was raining and snowing. I'm dedicated!


Cheers,

 

[blacklab]

Anyone aware of a DME version of this recipe? I am not quite to the AG stage yet, but would really like to make a batch of Ed's Haus.

 

[beefeater]

Hello!

I've been searching for a while for a suitable method and a recipe with which to take the plunge into all grain brewing.
Your recipe and the batch mashing method seems perfect!
It looks like something I can do, and the beer looks delicious!

However, as I live in Norway I have a problem with the ingredients.

Nobody sells malt with the name 2 Row here. Is this the same as Pilsner or Pale malt? The shop I intend to use sells Pilsner and Pale malt from Muntons and Pilsner malt from Castle Malting. Can anyone tell which of these will be the closest substitution?

The Vienna they don't have at all, but I noticed you suggested someone else they could substitute with Munchener, which they have.

The Crystal they have, as well as the right hops and yeast.

With all the substitutions it might end up as a totally different beer, but hopefully a good one

regards,
beefeater

 

[EdWort]

Hello!

I've been searching for a while for a suitable method and a recipe with which to take the plunge into all grain brewing.
Your recipe and the batch mashing method seems perfect!
It looks like something I can do, and the beer looks delicious!

However, as I live in Norway I have a problem with the ingredients.

Nobody sells malt with the name 2 Row here. Is this the same as Pilsner or Pale malt? The shop I intend to use sells Pilsner and Pale malt from Muntons and Pilsner malt from Castle Malting. Can anyone tell which of these will be the closest substitution?

The Vienna they don't have at all, but I noticed you suggested someone else they could substitute with Munchener, which they have.

The Crystal they have, as well as the right hops and yeast.

With all the substitutions it might end up as a totally different beer, but hopefully a good one

regards,
beefeater

Uffda!

Go with Pale malt and the Munchener malt. It will turn out fine.

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Ed

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[beefeater]

Uffda!

Go with Pale malt and the Munchener malt. It will turn out fine.

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Ed

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Tusen Takk!!

I'll definitively be brewing this as my first all-grain!

Skåler for deg!

 

[Hopleaf]

I tasted this tonight and though.. hmm why is that biscuity.. then I looked over my stuff and realized I bought Victory, not Vienna.. oopsie, well I'm sure it will be great albeit not what I intended

 

[drayman86]

I need a beer for New Year's Day party which I'm gonna brew this Friday. I'll give the Haus Pale a shot.

Decided on one slight modification; after reading about middle colored malts in the July/August Zymurgy (where the author of the piece urges brewers to try other than Crystal Malts), I decided to replace the 0.5 lbs of Crystal 10L with 0.75 lbs. of Mealnoiden, and dry hope with some Amarillo.

Looking forward to tasting the results.

Thanks for the recipe, Ed.

 

[drayman86]

Stopped by the brewery this evening to pick up the grain bill (and suck down a couple of pints). Due to the hop shortage, Amarillo looked like my best bet, and they were out of Melanoiden, too, so here's what I came up with for our ten gallon batch:

Ingredients


16.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US
2.00 lb Vienna Malt
1.50 lb Munich Malt - 20L

1.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.90 %] (60 min) Hops 19.8 IBU
1.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.90 %] (30 min) Hops 15.2 IBU
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.90 %] (15 min) Hops 3.9 IBU
0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.90 %] (5 min) Hops 1.6 IBU
2 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale

1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop)


Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.053 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.23 %
Bitterness: 40.5 IBU

Pretty close to yours, Ed, in terms of IBU's and OG. This will be the first of my beers I'll drink in '08 at the New Year's Day party. Seems like it'll be grand.

 

[Soulive]

I tried to brew this one today and ended up with 42% efficiency and 3.5 gallons into the fermenter...aka undrinkable beer. I was really looking forward to this one...

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=46921

 

[drayman86]

Sorry about the brew.

 

[EdWort]

John (jdoiv) sent me a bottle of Haus to review. He did a mighty fine job too and even used the label at the top of this thread/recipe. He made a very tasty beer, great carbonation, nice lace, and it has the easy quaffable flavor, but just a tad light on the ibu's compared to mine. Thanks John!

 

[Soulive]

Brewed it AGAIN yesterday at Bobby_M's house. This time my efficiency was about double last time and my final batch size was 5 gallons. Much, much better than last time. Anyone looking to improve their mashing, look into renting space in Bobby's garage. Its been fermenting since about 2am this morning. I'm thinking of adding 1/2 gallon of spring water to the keg to lighten it up. Here is the slightly tweaked recipe I brewed...

OG = 1.057 / IBUs = 43 / Mashed @ 152F

8.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 76.19 %
2.00 lb Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 19.05 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (35.0 SRM) Grain 4.76 %
0.80 oz Centennial [10.30 %] (60 min) Hops 29.1 IBU
0.35 oz Centennial [10.30 %] (30 min) Hops 9.8 IBU
0.20 oz Centennial [10.30 %] (15 min) Hops 3.6 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.00 %] (1 min)
1 Pkgs SafBrew Ale US-05

 

[rod]

brewed it today myself.
been having efficiency issues the last few brews so i added 2 more lbs of 2 row and 1/2 lb more of crystal.
of course today i get good efficiency(83%) and instead of a nice 1.050 easy drinking session beer i end up at 1.064

 

[JustDave]

I brewed this yesterday as my first AG -- thanks for the recipe, Ed!

 

[KatoKiyo]

Edwort,
Please explain what you mean by "crash cool". The beer looks great! I'm making my own version of it this weekend, with a few changes... Thanks!

 

[Jester369]

Chalk up another 10 gallons to this great recipe! In carboys now.

 

[ctkevin]

Brewed 5 gallons of this on Saturday for my second all grain attempt!

My first AG attempt (with a different recipe) was a "learning experience". I learned quite a bit from my mistakes and did much better this time. However I still made some mistakes and my efficiency was low (OG 1.043). And after the brew I realized my hops where 4.6% AAU so my IBUs will be off.

Since my IBUs and OG were on the low side, what are the chances this beer will be ready after just two weeks? I've been volenteered to buy the keg for the family xmas party this year and would love to share some homebrew.

Thanks Edwort!

 

[newguy]

Hey Ed just wanted to say thanks again! I just racked into the keg yesterday to crash and condition another week. Let me say the sample at 67 degrees and flat was the best tasting sample I have ever had from any of my brews!

I let me wife and a friend try a bit of it as we racked into the keg and they both said it tasted better than any of my beers before!

Well this should go over sweet! got lots of friends and family arriving over the next week. Will be great to welcome them with this fine brew!

Also Ed I must say I really like the flavors the Safale imparted on this brew. Now I haven't done this brew with the Nottingham's like you recommend. I have used Nottingham's a lot in the past and I'm quite familiar with its characteristics. I really like the Safale in this brew. Really came out spot on for style.

Was wondering what you thought having done both the brews with diffrent yeasts. Did you get to that Safale keg yet? What did you think between the two?

I'll be doing your Heffe recipe after X-mas!

Cheers and thanks again!

 

[EdWort]

Also Ed I must say I really like the flavors the Safale imparted on this brew. Now I haven't done this brew with the Nottingham's like you recommend. I have used Nottingham's a lot in the past and I'm quite familiar with its characteristics. I really like the Safale in this brew. Really came out spot on for style.

Was wondering what you thought having done both the brews with diffrent yeasts. Did you get to that Safale keg yet? What did you think between the two?

I'm glad folks are enjoying it and that it is turning out well for them as their first AG brew.

I donated my keg fermented with Safale-05 to a charity party (but got to drink a fair amount myself ) and I must say, that the difference between the two is hardly noticeable. This was about 4 months old and the hops had really mellowed so the brew was very smooth.

Basically, it's a toss up between Nottingham or Safale-05. Both will deliver great Haus Ale that most people will enjoy.

 

[newguy]

well good to hear. I'm also going to do your Hef with safale as well. I'm starting to really like these safale yeasts.

 

[EdWort]

I'm also going to do your Hef with safale as well..

Now that's a different story. My hefe MUST be done with Wyeast 3068 Weihenstephaner Yeast. Yeast from the oldest brewery in the world...From 1040. Man, I hope to be alive in 2040 so I can go to Freising, Germany for the Millinieum celebration of a thousand year old brewery. Talk about a party! Make your reservations now!

If you use Safale for the Hefe, it's not my recipe.

 

[brewnman]

Just brewed this up a few days ago. It was my first AG, thanks for the great recipe!

 

[Lil' Sparky]

Now that's a different story. My hefe MUST be done with Wyeast 3068 Weihenstephaner Yeast. Yeast from the oldest brewery in the world...From 1040. Man, I hope to be alive in 2040 so I can go to Freising, Germany for the Millinieum celebration of a thousand year old brewery. Talk about a party! Make your reservations now!

If you use Safale for the Hefe, it's not my recipe.

I think he was probably referring to the new Safbrew WB-06 hefe yeast, that's said to be the Weihenstephaner yeast.