American Pale Ale Bee Cave Brewery Haus Pale Ale

[Jester]

Bottled mine up tonight. It's going to be hard to wait 3 weeks to try!!!

 

[acefaser]

Made 10 gallons of this and am about 1/2 way through the first 5 gallon keg. I even used some of my homegrown hops from this year. Its very good! I dry hopped the second 5 gallons with 1 oz of Cascade and I think I like it even better. I tasted a sample while transferring it to a keg tonight. Yummy! Thanks EdWort!

 

[Pdeezy]

I just checked mine after 2 weeks in the bucket. It finished at 1.014. The hydro sample was a little banana-ish, but I had some temp issues on the first day. I'm going to leave it in the fermenter for another week before I bottle and hopefully some of the fruity esters will work themselves out.

The color is nice though, and I'm excited to get these bottled. I'm trying to decide if I want to dry hop or not.

I think an oz of Cascade will cover up some of my mistakes, and acefaser seemed to like it.

 

[mccumath]

EdWort,

So, lets see... I have 5 gallons of Apfelwein that is conditioning in a carboy (about 2 months in now), your Bavarian Hefe in the keg, and NOW I have to make your Haus Pale Ale!!! Thank you very much for your awesome recipes!

I thought maybe I had an issue with the Hefe, but now I figured out it was my lack of patience. Very good beer! Want to try again soon, maybe even try a neutral yeast strain, see what happens!

Anyways, again, thanks for providing us with great recipes. Will post when I get a chance to brew again; I believe that this is going to be my next brew!

Ryan M.

 

[TheGeek]

So my homegrown Cascade version turned out stellar. I was a little underwhelmed at first, but after giving it a few weeks in the keg to fully carb, it is tremendous. Not as bitter as I would have imagined for a pale ale, but my cascade could be on the weak side (didn't get an AA test). Overall i am impressed and will be brewing this again next year (and most likely a couple times in between with lhbs hops, hehe).

 

[Barnstormer]

So the ingredients I ordered are on the way and will hopefully have a batch going this weekend. The Cascades I ordered are 7.5% so I will have back those off a little. Also I was considering trying First Wort Hopping with this for the first time. I was going to add the 30 and 15 minute hop additions in with the 1st runnings and keep the 60 and 5 min as planned. Has anyone tried this with the Haus Ale?

Any thoughts or comments are appreciated!

 

[MichaelBrock]

Wouldn't that make the beer much more bitter? In effect, your 60 minute, 30 minute, and 15 minute additions will all be boiled for 60 minutes. I would expect, with my very limited experience, that you would end up with a much more bitter beer with less hop aroma and flavor. Of course, that may very well be what you're after. I brewed this exactly to the recipe and figure I'll change it up in the future. At least that way I'll have the baseline to compare it to.

 

[Barnstormer]

At first I thought the same thing, I am fairly new to brewing as well. From things I've read, you add the finishing hops while collecting the wort and sparge. I'm not sure of the science behind it but it seems that the lower temp at that point brings out the flavor/aroma and locks it in before the boiling temps are reached. It seems that while the flavor and aroma are preserved, you do gain a couple IBU's but the bitterness becomes much more rounded and less harsh. I have never tried it before but I thought it sounded fun. I know some others on the forum have tried it, Yooper comes to mind.

Here are some links to things I've read.

http://brewery.org/library/1stwort.html

http://www.beersmith.com/blog/2008/03/17/the-first-wort-hop-beer-brewing-techniques/

http://howtobrew.com/section1/chapter5-1.html

http://billybrew.com/first-wort-hopping There is a video with this one.

 

[MichaelBrock]

Thanks for the links! I have some reading to do. Nice thing about this hobby, always something else to learn.

 

[Barnstormer]

No problem! It seems like a technique that's not well understood so I figured I'd give it a try and see.

Cheers!

 

[Tizzomes]

I'm picking up the ingredients for this today and had a question. I've been sitting on a 1oz bag of East Kent Goldings and thought to use them up.So any thoughts of when I should throw them in, maybe spread them out with the cascade hops?I'm not sure about different hop profiles and how it would change this beer.Any advice would be great thanks.

 

[n8dagr8]

Thoughts on using Fuggles to bitter (60) and then cascade the rest of the way (45,30,5)?

FWIW, Fuggles = not so good.

I might have messed something else up (I did the partial mash and didn't get my my mash temp high enough at the start). This batch turned out a little too malty and "dirty" (for lack of a better word). It's drinkable but the hops doesn't have the same brightness that the cascade imparts.

 

[Canadabrew]

Brewing 10 gallons this morning. Always love this one.

 

[thrust]

Brewed an additional 5 gals. yesterday. Changed things a bit this time and included 4 oz. of Honey Malt. Plan to dry-hop with 1oz (each) of Amarillo, Citra, and Centennial.

 

[Pdeezy]

I just bottled up 5 gallons of this last night. It was a little green, and a little banana-ish from my temp problems early on, but overall I can't wait for it to carb up.

 

[Tizzomes]

Well brewed this up this morning,I had 1 oz of E.K.Goldings sitting in the freezer. So after 20 min mark in the boil I continuously add a pinch until boil was through.

Everything went well except I ended up with a little under 5 gallons??The first time that happened DAM!! Can't wait to keg this up!!

 

[borto1990]

I tried a double batch of this last week. transferred to secondary tonight. I had just under 12 gallons so my primary pails were a bit more full than normal. Used Knottingham yeast. when I pulled the lid off the primary, it had a very odd odor. very stong, pungent.. not very pleasant. I took a sample with the wine thief, didn't taste terrible, but you could taste kind of what the odor was. still looked very cloudy and yeasty.after letting it air out, it wasnt near as strong.. I'm new to this brewing gig... it didn't "look" bad.. nothing looked moldy or anything.. not sure what an infected beer looks like. should I be concerned?

 

[Brandx40]

I tried a double batch of this last week. transferred to secondary tonight. I had just under 12 gallons so my primary pails were a bit more full than normal. Used Knottingham yeast. when I pulled the lid off the primary, it had a very odd odor. very stong, pungent.. not very pleasant. I took a sample with the wine thief, didn't taste terrible, but you could taste kind of what the odor was. still looked very cloudy and yeasty.after letting it air out, it wasnt near as strong.. I'm new to this brewing gig... it didn't "look" bad.. nothing looked moldy or anything.. not sure what an infected beer looks like. should I be concerned?

Don't worry. It's probably just "green." I've done this recipe a couple times and have gotten a funky odor too. Not sure if it's the Nottingham yeast...It only lasted for a little bit and then fades away.

 

[Pdeezy]

I tried a double batch of this last week. transferred to secondary tonight. I had just under 12 gallons so my primary pails were a bit more full than normal. Used Knottingham yeast. when I pulled the lid off the primary, it had a very odd odor. very stong, pungent.. not very pleasant. I took a sample with the wine thief, didn't taste terrible, but you could taste kind of what the odor was. still looked very cloudy and yeasty.after letting it air out, it wasnt near as strong.. I'm new to this brewing gig... it didn't "look" bad.. nothing looked moldy or anything.. not sure what an infected beer looks like. should I be concerned?

How were your ferm temps? Mine got a little high in the first 24hrs, and it caused some sulfur smells. It was gone by bottling time though.

 

[Grumpybumpy]

Don't worry. It's probably just "green." I've done this recipe a couple times and have gotten a funky odor too. Not sure if it's the Nottingham yeast...It only lasted for a little bit and then fades away.

+1

mine smelled and tasted awful at week one. Most of it faded after a month when I bottled. Pretty sure it's the yeast. Haven't conditioned it yet, but I'm confident it will be great!

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[triangulum33]

How would this taste with Simcoe only?

 

[Shuznuts]

Gonna give this a whirl. I need a good, easy drinking house beer. All out if ginger beer from the summer

 

[Pdeezy]

Here's after 3 weeks in the primary, and 5 days in the bottle. It definitely needs some more time in the bottle, but it has already gotten very clear - without any finnings, and tastes great (minus the yeast in suspension still - my impatience).

 

[phoenixs4r]

3 weeks in fermentor, 3 weeks in bottle. Clear enough to watch the tv through. Tastes very similar to the.anchor steam pale ale. Slightly too sweer for my tastes, but will go great for the company party I brewed it for.

Thanks for the recipe!

 

[FatherJack]

Just bottled mine. Going into the bottle it was literally crystal clear. I am very much looking forward to when this one is fair game in two weeks.

I have to admit, I siphoned off two pints of it during bottling, it was so good.

Now I'm worried I didn't make enough...

 

[uncleben113]

This is definitely going in the line up for future brews.

Couldn't I use WLP 051 for this or Wyeast 1056? I already have some of each and they both sound like they'll do just fine.

 

[solavirtus]

This is definitely going in the line up for future brews.

Couldn't I use WLP 051 for this or Wyeast 1056? I already have some of each and they both sound like they'll do just fine.

You can. I think Ed suggests a dry yeast as a way to keep cost down some. I have done this with both 1272 and 1056, both came out good. 1272 was slightly preferred in several blind taste tests.

 

[uncleben113]

I have that yeast too. I was considering it but I'm still unsure. Can you pin down any differences in the two batches where you used the different yeasts?

 

[BetterSense]

The original recipe calls for 39 IBU, but when I plug the hop schedule into Hopville's calculator I only get like 30 IBU. Which should I shoot for, should I adjust my hops schedule to get 39 IBU or what?

 

[n8dagr8]

The original recipe calls for 39 IBU, but when I plug the hop schedule into Hopville's calculator I only get like 30 IBU. Which should I shoot for, should I adjust my hops schedule to get 39 IBU or what?

Shoot for 39. I've brewed this beer a few times and ended up at 31 IBUs on one and around 38 for the others. The one's at 38 were just perfect...31 didn't have the same balance (I used different hops, too but just realized I also didn't use enough when I was looking at my notes yesterday.