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  1. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    Haha. Have some wine from pasta instead of have some wine with pasta. Or both, even.
  2. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    Glutinous rice has something like 1/3 more amylopectin than flour, very roughly speaking. But probably will get some fermentation with the pasta. [Edit: actually more like 55% more]
  3. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    Unless the risoni has a lot of amylopectin like sticky/sweet rice, I wouldn’t expect to get anything like rice wine. Risoni is shaped like rice, but made from flour? The shape is important, but also the composition of the fermentables. Even non sticky rice with lower amylopectin doesn’t give...
  4. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    Yes, that is correct. For rice wine there is a gradual conversion of the rice during fermentation. That is why it is important how the rice is cooked and that the rice grains are distinct and loosely packed.
  5. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    Expensive sakes have less color because the rice is polished more which reduces the compounds that contribute to darkening. Less expensive sakes are charcoal filtered, but that reduces the flavor.
  6. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    Congrats. Nicely aged! That’s what they are going for with the wine in the huge clay jars and the mud and leaves sealing the top.
  7. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    There are some videos of an old fashioned way where they rolled the rice lees around in a suspended cloth hammock kind of thing.
  8. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    You can run it through a nylon paint strainer bag. If you fold it up, you can weight and press it between a couple oven trays. I’ve seen some videos of commercial production using racks and frames and pressing like for cider.
  9. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    Best rice is sweet/glutinous rice. I like Koda Farms Sho Chiku Bai. https://www.kodafarms.com/sho-chiku-bai-sweet-rice-preparation-serving-suggestions/ It’s a high quality California grown rice. Japan loves California grown rice. That’s the brand I use for special Chinese dishes and I went...
  10. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    That is the normal color for rice wine. In Chinese, this type of rice wine is called “wong jau” or “huang jiu” which translates to “yellow wine“ in english. If you let it age, it will turn more amber the way that sherry wine does. No need for amylase. The mold in the rice balls grows and...
  11. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    If you follow the traditional method, you rack/press after 10 weeks, heat to 140F and skim off any protein material, take it up to about 190F, then cool. From there you can store at room temperature. If you use a loose fitting lid, you can age it for 1-5 years and it will develop Shaoxing type...
  12. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    Looks like the rice was packed loosely enough and your yeast got past the lag phase so you are probably ok with the closed container. Opening the container is not a problem. Check out this documentary where the famous brew master, 王阿牛, does open fermentation. He even stirs the fermenting rice...
  13. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    If you look at my oldest posts and work forward, you should get a good idea of the process and theory. I pulled a lot of research from good sources. https://www.homebrewtalk.com/search/5133330/?page=3
  14. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    Bummer. If the Rhizopus gets off to a good start, you get some lactic acid which drops the pH and inhibits other molds. Rhizopus also can show dark spores if the growing conditions aren’t right for it.
  15. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    I get liquid collecting in 2-3 days. But that is at 85F. 80F is a bit low. Fungus and amylase activity is better at the higher temp. Once you get the starches to begin breaking down, the yeast will have something to ferment.
  16. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    I do 85F for 7-10 days. Then let it go down to ~68F for 2-3 months.
  17. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    Soaking and steaming is better at keeping individual grains. This provides a lot of surface area for aeration which benefits fungus and amylase activity. This in turn is good for the fermentation because the yeast get a gradual feed of sugar as the rice grains break down.
  18. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    Clogged cheesecloth theory sounds reasonable. The ancient method of washing, soaking, and steaming the rice attempts to cook the rice while keeping discrete grains. That way, you get liquid and air exposure at the surface of the grains where the saccharification and fermentation organisms live...
  19. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    He had a very small section in his sake book on Chinese rice wine and Shaoxing. His description is along the lines of the various historical methods documented in Grandiose Survey of Chinese Alcoholic Drinks and Beverages published by Jiangnan university of China. Here’s a link I posted a while...
  20. W

    Making Traditional rice Wine. Cheap, Fun, and Different

    Depends on if you want regular rice wine at 10-11% alcohol, or something higher like Shaoxing style wine.
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