he says both kits where a partial LME but he doesnt say how much wort was collected.....
I myself never had any probs with midwests kits until i went to AG with out my own crusher.............hit 3 in a row under 10
I made sure my blind pig clone was ready for tonight been in my kegerator now for a little over a week, with 5 taps theres no need for me to rush carbing a beer
well 12/25/07 I started off with Mr Beer by Febuary i switched to Extract and partials, then by september I went to all grain brewing 5 gallons plus a week since febuary, Ya I'm way over the legal amount :)