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So true. Can't agree enough. It's obvious but the more I brew and hopefully the more progress that is made it becomes clear that very little tweaks to each style and each recipe in technique and proccess can really make such a big difference. Hear you on the final beer ph. That makes sense...

Thanks for the response Callacave. Have to whole heartedly agree with you on Everett. The second time I had that beer I shared it with friends who don't usually drink/like very much beer, and even they were blown away and could taste that excellence. Haha I always joke but am kind of serious...

That's awesome! Glad to hear that! Thanks for the response think I'll definitely give it a try now.

Just came across this. WWJPD, how did that clone turn out? Interested to try it myself.