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    Three different beers, improved process, same off-aroma/flavor?

    You guys are absolutely right. I am embarrassed to bring a problem beer into the brewery to get help. That's just the plain truth. I figured I was jumping into the deep end with the Berliner attempt but it's what I had been reading about and drinking at the time so I took a stab at it, and at...
  2. Z

    Three different beers, improved process, same off-aroma/flavor?

    Sorry all, I appreciate all of your insight! As a new member of HBT I can only post five times a day so had to wait a bit to come back. Yesterday I brewed again, paying attention to my process and noting any areas that could use improvement or could lead to questionable beer quality. I'm...
  3. Z

    Three different beers, improved process, same off-aroma/flavor?

    You know, that's something else I thought could've been happening. With the small batch size for my first two beers I just pitched straight from vile/smack pack.. if I remember correctly I used Wyeast for one batch and WL for the other. With this Berliner I had a 1L starter for both lacto and...
  4. Z

    Three different beers, improved process, same off-aroma/flavor?

    It's absolutely within reason that I'm not nailing describing this aroma! Thanks for taking this trip with me, though. I don't open the fermenter until I take a FG reading. I wait for fermentation to visibly stop, give it another day or two, take my FG and transfer to bottling (or today a keg)...
  5. Z

    Three different beers, improved process, same off-aroma/flavor?

    It is particularly cider-y, if "sweet" were an aroma I would say almost sweet. One of the saisons was fairly aggressively hopped and there was zero hop aroma after bottle conditioning. Until today I thought maybe the problem was oxidation from transfer to the bottling bucket but since there was...
  6. Z

    Three different beers, improved process, same off-aroma/flavor?

    Right, there are so many details to cover I didn't want to ramble on and on for my first post. I'm using Bru'n Water to build from distilled. I've used the "Yellow Balanced" profile for all three batches. I live in LA, and in part of the city where my water source will change from time to time...
  7. Z

    Three different beers, improved process, same off-aroma/flavor?

    Hey all, Despite having read maybe too much and having listened to maybe too many podcasts I haven't actually pulled the trigger on brewing very often at home. I'm brewing 3 gallon BIAB batches on my stovetop, have a temp controlled fermentation fridge and for my first two beers I attempted...
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