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And I'm not talking "hurr durr BCM is piss durr" hoity toity beer guy talk. I'm seriously drinking a FAT PINT OF HOT PISS.

I'm drinking piss.

Just pitched and put in the dark. Any thoughts?

I like to squeeze it. Giggity. No really tho lol. I'm getting more into high gravity beers that'll sit a long time for conditioning- I'll squeeze and squeeze as much as I can out, and YES- I have noticed astringency when I do an initial taste; I'm talking about tasting my pulls when I'm testing...

Barley tea.

I think I might try to half my roasted barley with brown malts. I'd like a little smoother malty taste but I love the sharp espresso and a pitch black beer that I get with ample roasts- so I have to keep at least some. I like the brown malt idea though.

Barley tea.

I really like this one (only had a small taste), except for a pretty sharp astringency which I'm confident will mellow out in the bottle by Christmas. I'm wondering why there is such a strong aversion to all the grains? It seems a common gripe so I'm curious.

Here is a pic of the last batch, in secondary here and now. Very similar recipe.

What makes you say that? Just curious.

I will keep that in mind. I've tasted the previous version if this recipe and I really like it already- and I plan to age it at least 6 months. I wanna try this one with less roast and more chocolates- but I will have to try a really simple one like you're saying to sip alongside these when...

I'm telling you- that is the ONLY thing I know.

I do know that if you use hop extract to make taco salad beer that you might as well but them frozen from a gas station. Cuz that **** ain't craft.

Ahh ok. I just like the way it tastes. I'm not entirely sure what the beer or the bitterness has to do with the weather when I drink it- that's why I found it funny. I'm not all too cultured I guess.

If you're using extracts to make your tacos you might as well just buy frozen ones from a gas station.

The LHBS is almost walking distance from my place so I dont have an issue with that. I'm going for something more complex. Am I wasting my time?

I suppose?

I am confused by this but I will say yes.

Not really quite a month ago but whatever.

About a month ago I did the first round of this big stout I'm setting out to perfect. The first batch is settling in secondary now. This weekend or the next I will go for round two. Due to some helpful criticism on the last one, I already have a couple recipe alterations in mind. I will post the...