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Yep, my recipe is 1072. I plan to pitch the entire starter and I went with one quart of water and one cup of Lt DME. I figure this will get the yeast headed in the right direction.

Alright, no brewing tonight! Yeast starter is...starting? I took a cup of light dme to a quart of water and it's now in the growler until tomorrow night. Here's my recipe for the trial: 3.15# amber malt (60min) 6# amber malt (15min) 1# blond Candi sugar (1min) 1oz. summit (60min) 2oz...

according to the pitching calculator, I need 3.67 litres of starter? this seems an incredible volume.

First of all, OUCH! That article just made my head hurt. Now I have that look on my face like I'm trying to divide 4387 by 13! The Wyeast packet states that it's designed to pitch in a 5 gal batch. Will I really gain much by creating a starter? I haven't historically had fermentation trouble.

just leaving the Wyeast out for a day or two isn't sufficient? what does a starter do that the punch pack doesn't?

Ah, thanks Big Ed, but that's just my brother-in-law and brother-in-beer teasing me! Coalbrew: suck-it, or I'll sick Big Ed on you. Huge thanks to everyone who has responded. I will see if I can video my attempt to correct these problems and narrarate how I used to cock it up! I'll post...

Forgot to add that I've brewed all DME which still has the same effect, but to a lesser degree. I can't wait to get to the bottom of this armed with more ideas. The results will be in after primary, secondary, and conditioning (appx 2.5-3mos) I'll be sure to share my findings. :rockin::rockin:

You guys rock! thanks so much for the timely response and good inputs. I'll definitely pitch lower and incorporate the late addition technique. I'll be sure to post my results when I sample the fruits of my labor. If any one or combination of these fixes helps my enjoyment of my own beer...

Yeah, forgot to add "lower pitch temp" to my procedural fixes, although i've been getting quick starts and very active fermentation.

OK, as the process goes: I have historically started with a boil of about 6 gallons in an aluminum pot (until recently gaining a converted keggle). Adding malts and hops at 60 minutes, late addition hops per recipes (they have varied), then cooling to about 90-100 degrees F. I splash whilst...

Rog, got a good American Ale from Wyeast and will add the extract per the schedule on the recipe (3# at 60 mins and 6# at 15 mins). Northern's recipe is calculated for a 2.5 gallon boil though, and I plan to start at 5.97 gallons for evaporation and trube. I am hypothesizing that I may end...

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It is not any one thing I can put my finger on except perhaps a Pumpkiny, overly malty, molassesy, kind of mediocrity that usually leaves me feeling like... WELL THAT WAS A WASTE OF FRICKIN' TIME! I am really hoping to solve the mystery with this next batch so I can justify progressing into...

I loved my first batch of beer (probably amazed that I could brew) nearly 6 years ago. Since, I've been increasingly more disappointed in my results. I thought it might be my aluminum brewpot, so I converted a full-sized keg and am brewing in that. I use a carbuoy for both primary and...