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Update: Well, I was told that you can't really get any hops to grow your first year because the rhizome doesn't have enough root system but, mine are growing just fine! They are Cascades and the cones about an inch long. I don't really know what size they should be but, they're definitely...

I made a starter from corny keg dregs and it reached high krausen last night. Turns out that I can't brew until tomorrow. Will the starter be ok on the counter? Should I refrigerate it? Thanks

Those are the ones I have.

Here about a week ago, I made a thread asking if lactobacillus could give you diarrhea. Well, that was one bucket out of the 10 gallons. Now, I decided to put the other bucket in The keg because it didn't seem to taste funny and lo and behold! It seems fine. I can glean from this that, my yeast...

Man. You guys are sick 🤢😅

Yep. Best to let it out and, not fight it!

We've gone this far. May as well let it all "come out!"

The Craptic Lactic! Not a perfect rhyme but, it'll do.

Man, this thread is really going down the crapper!

I just found a calculator from Brewer's Friend and it says that it is 7.22% alcohol and the corrected gravity is 1.010. I find that hard to believe because last night I drink about five pints of it and it never even really made me feel buzzed. Had to switch to whiskey.

No. I don't know how to do that correction.

I'll bite. What the hell is Red Green vibes? It is an experiment so I understand the strapping yourself to a rocket thing but... Red green vibes? What's that?

Well, the whole thing went south. I did get some lactobacillus so, I can't use that yeast anyway. I'm drinking a slightly sour hef, right now. You did make me think though, in the future, if I wanted to try it, I could just fill up the bucket with CO2 out of my tank! Sounds like a good idea to me.

I'm on about my fifth one right now. I haven't noticed any upset stomach or diarrhea again. Maybe it's left over from The hangover yesterday. I was wondering though, do you think that when the yeast settles out of it it might drag some of that sour taste and stuff down to the bottom of the cake...

This one is the first one I've ever had that is just as you described. Barely drinkable. I'm going to try it and see what happens. I just put down one more pint of it.

I guess, I was just assuming it's lactobacillus because it makes a sour beer. It has happened to me several times and, whatever bug it is, it's got to be the same one. Always tastes the same. Sour.

Mass temp is 153. Original gravity was something like 1.065 and the gravity reading I just got was 1.025. that seems a little high to me but, it does not taste sweet at all.

I'm shaking up some of the beer right now to take a refractometer reading. I'm also thinking about drinking another pint of it and see what happens.

I did have a hangover yesterday that was over with probably by 5:00 or 6:00 p.m. after and during that, I drank quite a few sugary drinks. Iced tea and soda pops. Maybe that carried over to today. I don't know.

I thought lactose intolerant people couldn't have dairy products. I eat a lot of dairy products. Cheese and milk and buttermilk and cottage cheese and sour cream and everything that I can think of in the dairy family.