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Turns out the 2019 version uses Carafa-2.

A common complaint of this beer is the coffee flavor is too forward.

Update: I brewed my Dark Star Clone on the weekend. OG was 1.087. I'm aiming for ~10% ABV before I add whiskey and age it in a wooden "barrel". It smells delicious - chocolate, raisin, plum. I cut back the roasted malts a bit as I'm not a huge fan of coffee flavors in my beers. Not sure if...

After much thought and comparison between Chinooklehead, Pre Dark Star and a Dark Star clone made by a member of my LHBC, my clone will be this: 69% 2 row pale 9% Crystal 80 8% chocolate malt (450-500L) 9% oats 5% Black Prinz 7 x 1.080 = 560 points total. My iterative mashes yield about 30...

Black Prinz Subtle, smooth, no bitter, astringent, dry flavors or aftertaste, very delicate, clean flavor, mild roasted malty flavor Product Details Produced...

Carafa II https://bsgcraftbrewing.com/weyermann-carafa-2-25-kg "Weyermann® CARAFA® Type 2 is a roasted specialty malt made from high-quality spring barley. It's carefully roasted to add an espresso-like bouquet, coffee and chocolate flavors, and a mild but noticeable roasted aftertaste." I'll...

I'm going to brew a 6 gallon batch so I can split it in half to test various things, especially aging. Reducing water volume is the same as increasing grain bill with the same volume. Yes. It was the precursor to Dark Star. Right. What do you suggest ? I provided them to see how...

I am cloning Dark Star. The recipe provided by B&B is PRE Dark Star, ie the recipe for a precursor to it. It has a lower gravity. I'm scaling up the PRE Dark Star recipe to clone Dark Star itself. Agreed. No. See above. As is the case with any clone beer ! The recipe you refer to is...

Seems the coffee flavor comes from the roasted malts. https://byo.com/article/brewing-with-coffee/ "Most stouts and porters are brewed with highly-toasted barley malts, chocolate malts and black patent malts for flavor and creaminess. It is the deep roasting of these grains that give the darker...

I'm not interested in producing a smaller batch. Scaling grain up does the same thing as reducing batch volume.

So that is where the extra coffee flavor comes from ? I don't want too much coffee. I want lots of chocolate flavor. I regularly brew Chinooklehead Porter American Porter - Chinooklehead Porter and love the flavors. 55% 2 Row - 5.5 lbs 20% Wheat - 2 lb 10% C80 - 1 lb 10% Brown - 1 lb 5%...

So which malt over contributed to the coffee flavor ? Does the roasted barley do that ?

Thanks for the channel recommendation. https://www.youtube.com/c/MeanBrews/videos

Time for some analysis... Brewtarget recipe for Oatmeal Stout: 71% Marris Otter 8% flaked oats 6% Briess Victory Malt 28L 4% Crystal Malt 80L 4% Simpson's Black Malt 538-713L OG 1.050 FG 1.017 Color 37.1 The Pre Dark Star recipe: 64% 2 row 10% Crystal Malt 80L 9% chocolate malt 350L 9% flaked...

Nope. I'd love to see your recipes. Why did you leave out the licorice and cinnamon ? Understandable. Big beers need time to age those big flavors. Would you change the character malts to lessen the coffee flavor ? I'd appreciate tasting notes (and the recipe) when you do. Why...

Good find ! Thanks for sharing. But a little light on science. They dramatically scaled down the base malt but still also scaled down the character malts. I assume that the Before Dark Star recipe yields a full bodied/flavored stout. If I up the ABV via the base malt, do I really need to...

I want to clone Freemont's Dark Star barrel aged oatmeal stout. https://www.fremontbrewing.com/bbads https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/20680/140119/ https://www.ratebeer.com/Ratings/Beer/Beer-Ratings.asp?BeerID=142400 https://beerandbrewing.com/review/bourbon-barrel-dark-star/ I have...

Yes, I'm thinking of doing something like that. Gotta say though that I'm jealous of the "just fridges" in this thread that don't have freezers and then have so much room above the kegs to have a complete pouring surface. This will probably be an iterative effort. I'll share what I come up...

Here is my fridge set up. It holds 6 kegs. CO2 tank will go on the outside. There is a pull out freezer drawer on the bottom and lots of shelf space in the door. A better view of the keg tops. 6 kegs. I put the plywood on the floor to make it perfectly level. My last fridge had an...

Wow, that is a great set up. Now I wish my fridge was taller.