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That makes sense, thanks!

Just out of curiosity, any reason you didn't choose say, 10:30 for the element? You'd still be able to lay the kettle down, it wouldn't be much harder to plug/unplug the element, and have that 2 feet to the left of the kettle free in case you ever want to use that part of the bench for...

I got in on the sale Bell's was having last week on the Brewing Elements series of books (Hops, Malt, Yeast, Water), and was curious if anyone had a recommended order in which to read them.

Subscribing as I'm considering the 15-gallon system, with the condenser-boss instead of the hops-boss (can't use both).

Got it. I'm probably one of the few 25-year veterans of IT that doesn't do any social media, so I totally missed it. :)

I must have missed that one then. My last update "Putting all Z Pieces Together", Friday Oct 19, said this:

Well I guess you're going to be waiting another week. :D Radio silence again last week...I'm getting very close to cancelling my Z2 and either getting a Brew Boss or a panel and 2-kettle RIMS.

In fairness, you just said you couldn't find any prebuilt controllers that could run a boil and a RIMS at the same time. I was merely pointing out that there are plenty of them. You didn't say until later that both elements have to run simultaneously off of the same PID. :) That's not...

Can't all of the 50A panels run two elements at once?

Did another 9 lbs of Ethiopia Agaro Biftu Gudina Cooperative yesterday, which brings my total YTD into three-digit territory :) at 104 lbs. 190.32 lbs overall.

My name is Lax Coach, I approve of this cheese. I'd also like the temp controller.

the 2V controller systems are priced surprisingly well. $2250 for two fully-welded electric kettles, insulated mash tun, and the controller seems more than fair.

All good info, thanks everyone. To sort of bring it back around, a couple of you have confirmed that if expansion is a good possibility, a 2-element panel should be considered. So if you were buying, what would you choose, and why? Just to put a little box around the question, assume that I...

QoB, last week I asked a question about the best way to protect a Z2 in a garage brew station, which sometimes gets below freezing. Do you have any insights on that?

Yes, flexibility is definitely one of the things I'm looking for. I lust after something like the Spike System, but can't afford nor justify dropping $5k + on brewing gear right now. That said, I'm already almost $2500 (fully refundable) into the not-yet-in-production Z2, so I've chosen to...

NICE!! :ban::rock:

Gotcha.

This is $4: https://www.brewhardware.com/product_p/tc15bc.htm

Therin lies the rub. I don't yet know what my brew style will be. Thus far my experience has been 40 batches on the little PicoBrew, which is more or less "push button, receive wort". My satisfaction with it is what led me to preorder the Z earlier this year. But they keep missing date after...

Any more comparisons between panels? Or are they all basically the same, only differing in price?