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Ill go off the numbers of the Spotted Cow and Sierra Nevada to get a good range. So somewhere around 4.8%-5.6%

Less hoppy if possible

Is this the one you're talking about? http://morebeer.com/products/erik-beers-cream-ale-extract-beer-kit.html So I could make a 2 batches of that and use the remainder for something else?

For the Sierra Nevada pale ale it says "Generous quantities of premium Cascade hops give the Pale Ale its fragrant bouquet and spicy flavor. "

And here is another pale ale http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/140/276 Hopefully some of these beers are close enough to make fixes/changes to the recipe after my first batch

Ok, maybe something like this? http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/192/55081 or http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/35/104 Maybe you have a better suggestion. As long as there is a cream ale in there :)

Yea Im getting the 7$ spoon and all of the ingredients from MoreBeer, I saw that its only 59$ for free shipping. Do you suggest I look at the cream ale recipe and buy the ingredients individually in bulk? It would be cool to mix and match a few so I would be able to change up flavors... but...

Alright. This is what I got in my cart. Midwest supplies: 144 bottle caps http://www.midwestsupplies.com/gold-caps.html The start kit for 90$ http://www.midwestsupplies.com/plastic-brewing-starter-kit.html an extra hydrometer http://www.midwestsupplies.com/hydrometer-triplescale.html A 11 lb...

So are you saying I should get the all grain kit? Because that has an option to get crushed grains. http://www.midwestsupplies.com/liberty-cream-ale-all-grain-kit.html

If you wanted to suggest on ingredients I guess I dont have to use smaller portioned recipes. I was just hoping to make 2 batches so I could improve without making another ingredient purchase. Im going to order the kit, but probably skip on the thermometer seeing it comes with 2 already.

Well here is my current list. Brew kit: 90$ http://www.midwestsupplies.com/plastic-brewing-starter-kit.html The Brewing Starter Kit includes: 5 Gallon Plastic Carboy Universal Carboy Bung 6.5 Gallon Fermentor with Grommeted Lid Liquid Crystal Thermometer x2 Airlock x2 Hydrometer and Test Jar 2...

The type of cream ale Im going for has 4.8% ABV This is what the cream ale pack comes with. 6 lb. Gold liquid malt extract 8 oz. Carapils® specialty grains 2 oz. of Cascade pellet hops Yeast Priming sugar Grain bag

Oh, yes they do. I forgot to mention that one. Its 11.5 grams, for $3.29

That sounds interesting. I thought the liberty cream ale would be a good idea, but if you have a suggestion let me know. :)

Ok I'm adding the final things to the shopping cart. But it's asking me what kind of yeast I want. Muton and fison ale yeast for a $1.40 or the name brand of the ingredient is American ale yeast activator for 6.30$. I would probably just pick one unless someone has a suggestion Or Headwaters...

By the way, is it possible to buy a 5 gallon ingredient kit but only use, let's say a third of it? I would like to experiment and at least get one decent batch out of this ingredient purchase

I just looked it up. It's not difficult at all. I don't need any extra equipment or materials, it's just an extra optional step to improve the taste of your beer. Right?

I don't have a LHBS :/ I guess I could get the 5 gallon batch. I will have to read up on steeping.

Maybe I should start with 1 gallon batches until I find something I like? Then buy 5 gallon batches. I found a cream ale micro brew http://www.midwestsupplies.com/micro-bru-liberty-cream-ale-all-grain-kit.html

Found better info on the beer. It says it's a cream ale. http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/590/1963