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im not ,not wanting to learn how to make extract beer . I just seem to have the same recurring problem that i dont really understand and I know when to stop beating a dead horse. ill try the addition of the LMEs at flameout before I totally give up. if nothing else, i'll just distill it so i...

Now THERES something i'll have to try. so explain how you do it then. are you basically taking your water volume to boil for hop schedule only then adding your extracts at flame out ? are you thinking im bottom burning the extract?

no DME, its all LME and a little bag of specialty grain.

i appreciate your input ,but....youre not understanding my issue. it cant be chlorine reacting with tannins from husks...this is issues with prepackaged extracts.

i might .

no, im not going to buy more extract kits to rule out if its the water or fresh or not. ill just keep buying grains , i prefer that anyway. My wife bought me 3 of these last fall , i have 2 left . theyre both NB extracts kits with maybe 1 lb of a specialty grain for style i guess. im almost...

see theres my issue, i do that anyway . same as my AG brews and this never happens . just extracts.

thanks Jag, you know every time i post about this i get the same answer. water. wouldn't you think if it was water, id have the same results out of an AG batch? im very puzzled by this. ok, i trust your opinion ...our water is city water and chlorinated, mostly can smell it on sunday mornings...

hey guys , ive had a little hiatus from the forums but still brewing. between work , my truck project and other stuff just got off here for a bit of a break. I've got on a job that isnt so packed full of overtime so i can actually enjoy a weekend again. so my brewing time has come back some...

i followed the instructions as per the kit. temps, times, to the letter. these things never come out right . i dont know why they keep selling them if they go bad that quickly.

i guess im wasting my time with these LME kits then, imo they(LME kits) all taste the same. i havent looked at the dates of manufacture but my wife bought them in October and ive been busy working to the point i have no time to brew . i'll go back to all grain when i do . I'm not about to waste...

nope, i stirred constantly .i turned off the heat while i added it . i boiled according to the instructions. steeped to instructions too. 153* ,for whatever the time was, to the letter... pH , i do not know . i dont normally check it .

yes! the sorghum wang. ok, i'll let them rest another month and try again.

i got a breakdown last year. new ones come out in april . i'll have to see what it is . I dont normally add anything but a 1/2 campden. Like i said, i normally do AG brews . I hardly ever do extracts just because of this exact issue i have with them. i just cant seem to nail it down or eliminate...

i dont have the can but i have the box i think . ill have to look.

youve made this one?

i cant explain the taste or flavor but its a noticeable difference from an all grain. sweet or musty? is all i can think of . I'll have to try distilled next time , i have 2 more extract kits . I guess i never considered minerals concentrated in the kits .

nothing fancy. 1/2 campden tablet / 7 gallons tap (city)water during strike heat. if its the water, why would it do this to an extract and not AG ?

doubt it. my wife picked it up for me in October. how can it oxidize in a couple months (no idea when it was packed) sealed in a can? if extract goes bad that fast , they need to do something else for preservation.

the kit wasnt old , a couple months. liquid extract with a couple pounds of Carared i think it was for color. Northern Brewer kit, Red Ale . As i said , i doubt its the water . i do the same exact thing to my water with my AG brews and I never get this taste.