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  1. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    This is pretty close to Stone IPA's grain bill, I think they have 12-14% crystal. I love their insane beers as well, just my opinion though.
  2. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    Where are you guys seeing comments from the brewer on twitter? I'm following TGB, but don't see anything about this. Sent from my iPhone using Home Brew
  3. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    I'm thinking something like this; 86% Golden Promise 9% Caramel Malt 10L 5% Caramel Malt 20L Mashed @154 60min 60min Boil 68 IBU 2oz 15min 2oz 10min 3oz 5min Maybe a flame out addition? 5oz 45min Whirlpool @180-185 2oz 7days dry hop 2oz 3days...
  4. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    I have a citra / centennial recipe I have made about a half a dozen times that doesn't have a whirlpool or hopback. I've been chasing an almost orange juice flavor that I got the second time I made it and have yet to replicate it again. Maybe you're right about the harvest times and I got lucky...
  5. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    I suspect they use a hopback as well. The whirlpool didn't quite get it there for me. Unless I had the wrong temp or amount there must be some other method, but I've never used a hopback so I don't know if it would be a better technique to extract this flavor or not. Maybe a heavy whirlpool into...
  6. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

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  7. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    It's interesting to try the same recipe with two different efficiencies. In my opinion the extra alcohol hides "sweet/juiciness" that the lower abv version has. Don't get me wrong it's still there, but not the same. p.s. When you get hop burps, you know that ****s fresh! Sent from my iPhone...
  8. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    So if Psue loses it's haziness because of the new brewing system, that kind of tells us there's no wheat in recipe, doesn't it? Sent from my iPhone using Home Brew
  9. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    Got my two Psue at Star, Trixies sold out. Star actually got some Zombie Dust last week too. Sent from my iPhone using Home Brew
  10. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    Star liquor also does 2 bottles, but you gotta be there early. I used to go to Alpine Liquor in Oregon for two plus they where fairly "hidden" and can get it late. The last time I called to check at Alpine and was told they were going to a 1 bottle limit to "spread it out " and wouldn't be...
  11. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    Sadly, in Madison we're limited to 1 bottle per customer. Sent from my iPhone using Home Brew
  12. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    That IS a looooooong shot!
  13. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    Something along these lines is what I'm thinking, however, I'm still debating eliminating the Vienna or Munich entirely. Note; The 0.0min hop stand / whirlpool is actually a 45min HS / Wrpl added when the wort cools to 180. Also the same efficiency, or lack of, adjustment that I used prior is...
  14. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    In my opinion, I don't think TGB uses dextrose in this recipe. It would dry it out and you'd lose the "sweet/juiciness" this beer has, which I believe Adam was alluding to in the previous page describing his last attempt. I'm thinking this is going to end up being an illusively simple malt bill...
  15. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    I had a bottle of the latest batch last night as well, it didn't have the onion flavor this time, just straight up citra. It is still clearer than in the past but not quite as clear as the last batch. I have had mine kegged for a week and a half now. My attempt came out darker, but tastes...
  16. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    I just dropped in my second dry hop addition and grabbed a sample of course. I first noticed that the color may be a tid bit dark, I'll know for sure later, and after tasting noticed something else. Besides the latest Psuedo Sue being ALOT clearer than in the past, I also noticed there was an...
  17. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    I think the 87 IBU's is misleading, the first wort hops probably don't give it 19 IBU's more like 10-15 and the hop stand adds a lot more hop flavor rather than bitterness if any. I don't know this to be factual, but it certainly doesn't taste like 87 IBU's more like 60-70. The hop flavor from...
  18. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    Yes, the Zombie Dust recipe was used as the flavor profile is very similar. However, I substituted two row for golden promise, added white wheat, bumped up the hop burst schedule, and added the large hop stand as I think these all attribute to the distinct flavor it has. I'm not claiming to...
  19. WiscoBrewer

    Toppling Goliath pseudoSue - Can you clone it?

    This is what I brewed, racking to secondary today. I grabbed a couple bottles last night and tastes dead on out of the fermenter, albeit a little "fresh". I will save a bottle to side by side test when dry hopped and carbed. This last batch of Psuedo doesn't have the haziness of the last few...
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