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    The Bruery's Or Xata

    Anyone ever discover a good Or Xata clone recipe? Verify this recipe?
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    Cheap Ph Meter Vs. $100 Ph Meter Test

    If anyone wants to ship me some cheapos I'll gladly throw them in the mix. I think I actually agree with AJ here - my goal is to shed some light on whether these cheap meters are useful at all for the casual hobbyist. IE - is your mash in the right range. If you are perfecting a recipe and...
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    Cheap Ph Meter Vs. $100 Ph Meter Test

    Wow, can't believe I haven't brewed for 7 months! I've been drinking less beer lately, so I guess that's a good thing. Back at it again with a Maris Otter SMASH-ish. Original batteries on everything so far. BLUF: These cheapo meters still seem to be holding their own! MW201 - 5.43...
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    Cheap Ph Meter Vs. $100 Ph Meter Test

    Again - if we were evaluating these meters in a NIST metrology lab, I agree. We're not. I'm trying to determine if a couple of cheap meters can demonstrate accuracy within 0.1pH of a so-called "HBT Approved" expensive meter. So far I only have a couple of meters and a few measurements. We'll...
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    Cheap Ph Meter Vs. $100 Ph Meter Test

    You're focused on N=2 here. The point is that I can make hundreds measurements with each to achieve proper statistics, again, to determine if these meters meet their spec. My target audience here is the average Homebrewer, which in my opinion does not obsess over the hundredths mash pH. Maybe...
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    Cheap Ph Meter Vs. $100 Ph Meter Test

    Serious question AJ - do you have Asperger Syndrome? You are obviously one of the most knowledgeable people around here when it comes to water chemistry, but the way you consistently imply that people who disagree with you lack common sense and intelligence make me wonder. I've even seen you...
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    Cheap Ph Meter Vs. $100 Ph Meter Test

    You throw around a ton of numbers and statistics, and generally you're very accurate. But then you resort to vague statements like these.... Those are completely unqualified assertions. The truth is nobody knows what percentage of buyers end up with accurate meters for any length of time. Sure...
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    Cheap Ph Meter Vs. $100 Ph Meter Test

    My goal is to determine if these cheap meters meet their specs, which is 0.1. For some folks, they want more precision and are willing to pay for it. For others, a water report, accurate software and a cheap pH meter with 0.1 resolution for a sanity check is good enough. I'll leave it to the...
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    Cheap Ph Meter Vs. $100 Ph Meter Test

    Not sure I understand your question. The two yellow meters are slightly different but obviously the same manufacturer. I purchased them roughly a year apart? Same specs. The reason I bought another $11 pH meter was just to provide another set of datapoints. People disparage these meters so...
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    Cheap Ph Meter Vs. $100 Ph Meter Test

    I had the same question and the answer was this MW102. Just make sure you also buy the proper calibration solutions and probe storage solution. It is a nice meter if you have about $150 you're willing to burn (with solutions). Make sure you have a solid water report first though otherwise...
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    Cheap Ph Meter Vs. $100 Ph Meter Test

    Brewing up a simple NE style IPA tonight. I picked up a new cheapo $11 meter from Amazon just for $hits and giggles. Using the MW solutions to calibrate (4.01 and 7.01), all meters still appear to be meeting their specs. :mug:
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    Aliexpress pH meters

    I've been testing a cheap meter with my mw102 and so far the cheap one is fairly close. If you have a quality water report or use RO water and have a handle on your water baselines, I'd say that's more important than a super accurate meter if you have to prioritize costs. Good source water...
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    New phones

    Came from a Nexus 5X to a pixel and now an iPhone 7+. Hands down my favorite is the pixel. Better camera and much better display. I tried them side by side with the same picture at max brightness. That pixel OLED is simply gorgeous. I find the Android OS much preferable also. Alas I'm giving up...
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    Cheap Ph Meter Vs. $100 Ph Meter Test

    Not likely a huge difference, but my goal with this test to is follow the manufacturer directions to the T and determine just how bad a cheap pH meter really is...
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    Cheap Ph Meter Vs. $100 Ph Meter Test

    Update with Yooper's Oatmeal Stout. Way undershot pH - I hope it turns out alright :mad: I haven't brewed a ton lately, but hoping to get back into it with some equipment upgrades. I did a blue moon clone awhile back but didn't post results since I mistakenly ordered the wrong pH buffer...
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