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You're a Beginner & Your Beer isn't Optimal...Who cares?

Discussion in 'Beginners Beer Brewing Forum' started by Doc Robinson, Oct 22, 2009.

 

  1. #1
    Doc Robinson

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    I brewed my first batch ever on October 10th. I did a partial mash on a Bell's Two Hearted ale. I didn't know what "dry hop" meant and added the "dry hops" as soon as I removed the wort from the heat. NOT OPTIMAL. I racked to my clearing tank after 7 days. I didn't take a hydrometer reading, the airlock bubbles were 3 minutes apart, and most likely I was past 75% attenuation. NOT OPTIMAL. Here's why if you care.

    I conditioned my brew in the clearing tank for ONLY 5 days before kegging because I was impatient & excited. NOT OPTIMAL. There are a million posts why, so you can look those up.

    What happened? My beer tastes AWESOME...that's what happened. Why? Because I am a beginner, and if you are reading this, you probably are too. If not, you are reading to see what I have to say and I'd like to know if you agree or disagree. Even if you have been drinking craft beer for years, you probably don't have the experience and the refined palate that comes with years of homebrewing to know the difference.

    All the advice on this forum from amazing brewers and that you'll read in books like How to Brew has all us beginners freaking out about off-flavors and minor subtleties that might arise in our beers if we don't do this or if we don't do that. Frankly, I don't believe that at this level, we are even equipped to know the difference.

    I'm not advocating repeating what I've done...in fact, I'm taking a stance against it. Follow expert advice, soak up knowledge, etc. However, if you do deviate for whatever reason, make mistakes, or start freaking out, just relax. Your beer won't be optimal. Who cares? It will still be awesome. Next time, just strive to make it more awesome.
     
  2. #2
    Neurot

    Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    Isn't this why people always say, "Relax Don't Worry, Have a Home Brew"?
     
  3. #3
    Doc Robinson

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    Yes, but reading through the hundreds of new beginner posts on a daily basis, seemingly nobody takes the famous quote to heart.
     
  4. #4
    brrman

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    Nothing was optimal on my 1st brew about 3 years ago. But hot damn it tasted good to me!

    What part of Indy are you in, Doc??
     
  5. #5
    Neurot

    Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    I've yet to brew my first batch and my only hope is to get drunk. :)
     
  6. #6
    Doc Robinson

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    Fishers. You?
     
  7. #7
    yorkbrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    Hahaha I think what you mean is RDWHAHB!

    My roommate and I have a saying about beer: The ancient Egyptians did it so it can't be that hard. I'm all about keeping it simple if it is producing good results. I caution you not to dismiss what other people might or might not be tasting with their palate. It is a subjective thing after all.

    Kudos on the awesome beer!
     
  8. #8
    PBTow

    New Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    You go on with your bad self! You giving me hope. I'm bottling my first batch next Tues. and I know I messed up but it's all good. I correct the things I did wrong on the next one. ;)
     
  9. #9
    Neurot

    Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    Didn't they also build pyramids?
     
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    weirdboy

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    We're talking about the same civilization that built huge pyramids and the Sphinx with no modern machinery, right?
     
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    yorkbrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    I don't know, maybe?
     
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    pdbreen

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    So long as you keep things clean, I think it's almost impossible to make a fatal mistake. You may end up with something different than anticipated, but unless/until you're trying to churn out batches that are identical to ones made in the past, it just doesn't matter much.

    Just take notes so when something turns out really good, you have clues as to why.

    Congrats on your first batch!
     
  13. #13
    Picobrew

    Biscuit Enthusiast  

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    Sounds great Doc! I think the general theme is to try NOT TO FREAK OUT new brewers, but they always worry about every little thing. I'm glad that you are just chillaxing. I remember, it was really, really hard for that first batch especially, because it was the only beer you were working on. Once you have 7 fermenters going at once and tons of stuff ready to drink, it makes it a lot easier to RDWHAHB. I kept thinking the first time, if I actually had a damn homebrew to RDW with, this would be a lot easier!
     
  14. #14
    Doc Robinson

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    Haha. I am actually so obsessed, I brewed on the 10th, the 14th, and the 18th so I have another 10 gallons marinating in my closet! Now that I have one batch tapped, I am going to take my time with the other two.
     
  15. #15
    dasein668

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    I've been brewing for years. All grain. And often things aren't "optimal" even still. User error, freak accident, aging thermometer... It's always something. Still brew very good beer 98% of the time.

    Carry on!
     
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    Bobby_M

    Vendor and Brewer  

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    I think my first few batches were barely drinkable and I knew it then too.
     
  17. #17
    peripatetic

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    I was very fortunate when brewing my first batch a couple of months ago to have a buddy come help me who is the most laid back person I know, and who has brewed a few times before (although a completely different style).

    Every time something went wrong and the perfectionist/techie/geek in me wanted to scream, he said "Oh, I'm sure it'll be fine." Boil over? "It'll be fine." Forgot the second hops addition? "It'll be fine." Immersion cooler leaking unsanitized water into the wort? "It'll be fine."

    Mistakes were made. But 2 weeks later I bottled, and 2 weeks after that I cracked the first one open and it was BEER! Real, honest-to-God beer! It tasted great!

    Was it the best beer I'd ever had in my life? No. But my fiancee (who'd heard me moaning for a month about all the mistakes I'd made) took a few swallows, looked up in surprise, and said "hey, this is GOOD. I mean, I'd PAY for this!"

    So, relax. It'll be fine. Just trust the Starsan, and you're good.
     
  18. #18
    TexLaw

    Here's Lookin' Atcha!  

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    After 16 years, my beers still aren't optimal. Shoot, that's half the fun of homebrewing!

    Wait a minute. You kegged your first batch?!?


    TL
     
  19. #19
    Doc Robinson

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    Yeah...there is no way I was having anything to do with bottling.
     
  20. #20
    KhellendrosXS

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    My first batch two weeks ago ended up having some hop material transferred into the carboy. I saw it in the krauzen when it was up really high. Now that it has fallen the hops are somewhere in there and man do they smell nice!

    I cant wait to get this one kegged up!
     
  21. #21
    DRoyLenz

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    His Profile Description does say $1,143.74 Deep, I'm assuming a chunk of that came from kegging equipment.
     
  22. #22
    DKershner

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 22, 2009
    The whole point of this site is for everyone to obsess about every detail of their own brew, and to tell everyone else to Relax, Don't Worry, Have a Homebrew.
     
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  23. #23
    pdbreen

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    Good one - that really sums it up!
     
  24. #24
    LarryC

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    This thread is great! I only have 5 batches under my belt but the goal is for each brew day to go a little smoother. With that seems to come each beer being a bit better. I don't know if I'll ever enter one of my beers in a contest but when I share my beer with friends and they compliment on it, that's enough reward for me. Maybe someday my perspective will be different but now I just enjoy the process and at the same time I get to enjoy the results :mug:
     
  25. #25
    Doc Robinson

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    You are correct. I'm an attorney & CPA, so I can provide an itemized list upon request. ;)
     
  26. #26
    brrman

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    Northwest side, just south of Zionsville... I used to live in Fishers tho. If you ever need someone to sample your brew... well I'm not that far away... LOL

    And I kegged my first batch as well! Bottling takes too much work - though I do bottle portions of the more eclectic batches...
     
  27. #27
    tommy_cian

    New Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    First post on this site, I really liked your post, awesome actually... enough to make me register.

    I've been reading here since August (my first brew month). I've brewed 7 batches (including tonights cider thing). My first was a IPA that was sooo hoppy I couldn't drink it (although my neighbor happily had a case and a half over a weekend). Since then, 2 successfull nut brown ale, 1 great american amber ale (another ready to keg this weekend), a great blonde ale that I'm drinking now, and tonights weird and crazy cider.

    It smells so good right now (while I'm waiting for it to cool) that I'm ready to start drinking. I've taken three orders from neighbors for christmas party brews, I can't get enough of it.

    My wife is ready to kill me, since I've spent hundreds (or probably 1200) since august, but its a new passion...
     
  28. #28
    Freddy57

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    The only requirement that anyone has to meet when brewing beer, is to make a beer that YOU want to drink. Nothing else matters. I'm far from a beginner and I brew my beers to please ME. Don't let anyone make you feel bad about your brewing. Just brew in a manner that makes you happy and enjoy the hobby. Welcome to the obsession!
     
  29. #29
    Doc Robinson

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    I appreciate it. I'm glad you joined. As a new member myself, and only 3 weeks into brewing, I wanted to document my initial impression of the hobby and give my first impressions. For one reason or another, we are drawn to this obsession because we all have something in common. What exactly that is doesn't need to be spelled out. Just remember, money is for spending and a wife's raised brow is only transitory.
     
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    sudbuster

    This ain't my first rodeo....  

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    OP,
    It can become an obsession. It would be painful for me to know how much I've spent on equipment over the years. But, the best memories i have of this hobby are the times when a few of us , not so young boys now, would get together to brew. Maybe the stuff was crap; and probably was by today's standards, but we were having a blast. Seems now everyone is obsessed of all the tiny details. Anxiety abounds. People are trying to gain a following. Others writing books. Some wanting to do nanobreweries. Worry, toil, struggle, egos yearing for recognition .. It's sad how "fun" can turn into such a state.

    We used to just give a beer to some friends and asked what they thought of it. Now one has to be BJCP tested before one can give a "meaningful" response.

    Well, I'm glad your brew was AWSOME. That's what counts IMHO....
     
  31. #31
    tommy_cian

    New Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    I'm a trained actuary and PhD economist, I can tell you the effect of my home brew spending on peace treaties around the globe.

    My wife has enjoyed my beer so far, although she doesn't like the calories, she asked for the cider, so I'll make her drink it...
     
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    FlashRedGLS18T

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    I won't be asking DocRobinson any questions on here, don't want to get billed for it.
     
  33. #33
    Laughing_Gnome_Invisible

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    I am currently drinking a very young bitter that I brewed when I forgot my self control and got absolutely hammered on brew day. It was one of those occasions when you wake up from a coma and find that the beer fairies handled everything for you sometime after sparging. I have no idea what I did right or wrong with the boil, but I'm sure it's not optimal. And it STILL tastes great! :D
     
  34. #34
    HempelNet

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    Another fellow Indy brewer! Great post BTW.. :mug:
     
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