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Yeast Starter Question

Discussion in 'Fermentation & Yeast' started by horsepowerwhisperer, Oct 6, 2016.

 

  1. #1
    horsepowerwhisperer

    Member

    Posted Oct 6, 2016
    I'm doing a 16 gallon high gravity (1.075) Belgian beer this weekend. Last time I did a big beer, I made a 5L starter in a 5L flask and put it on a stir plate. I ended up with a volcano overnight. Using the Brewer's Friend calculator, it looks like I can get what I need if I use six vials of yeast and a 4L starter.
    Will this be too much yeast for the size of the starter? In other words, is there a yeast pack/volume of starter minimum or maximum ratio?

    Thanks!
     
  2. #2
    porterpounder

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Oct 6, 2016
    You'll be fine. A starter mainly just wakes the yeast up and gets it ready to go.
     
  3. #3
    Dcpcooks

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 6, 2016
    I use two pack of yeast in a 5 l starter for most of my beers in the OG range your speaking about. You'll need 900b cells for that beer and two packs in 5 l is enough to ferment that beer. It's from beer smiths starter and I have had great success with it.
     
  4. #4
    rhys333

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 6, 2016
    I haven't brewed to that volume myself, but that sounds like a heck of a lot of yeast. You need about 800B cells? Couldn't you do 1 vial in a 4 or 5 L starter, or do a step up if necessary?
     
  5. #5
    jcav

    Still Believing In God, Family&This Great Country  

    Posted Oct 6, 2016
    Well I checked for you on this site which uses a different rate to get you more in the ballpark of yeast cells. http://www.brewunited.com/yeast_calculator.php
    This site says you need 827 billion cells for a beer of that gravity and of that many gallons. Use three packs of yeast, 4 liter starter in a 5 liter flask, total cells after is 856 billion.

    John
     
  6. #6
    day_trippr

    We live in interesting times...

    Posted Oct 6, 2016
    While one can actually create a starter that has unity gain, there's much more scope to starters than that...

    Cheers!
     
  7. #7
    horsepowerwhisperer

    Member

    Posted Oct 7, 2016
    Great feedback all around. I was calculating using the "Pro Brewer 1.0 (Ale, or High Gravity Ale )" setting in the BF yeast calculator, since the OG is going to be pretty high. I also put the yeast vials at about a month old, since that's usually about their age at my local HBS stores. It gave me a target pitch rate of 1100B cells. Three vials in a 4L starter sounds more reasonable, though.
    Thanks, guys!
     
  8. #8
    flars

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 7, 2016
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