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Wine finings in beer?

Discussion in 'General Homebrew Discussion' started by fluidmechanics, Oct 19, 2012.

 

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    fluidmechanics

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 19, 2012
    I recently did a batch of skeeter pee and have a bunch of the finings left over. They made the skeeter pee really clear and I was wondering if there was any ill effect if you used them on beer as opposed to cold crashing. I used kmeta and sorbate. I'm also guessing that it would eliminate the possibility of carbonating in the bottle with priming sugar. Has any one tried this?
     
  2. #2
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Oct 19, 2012
    Sorbate and kmeta aren't finings.

    Kmeta is an antioxidant and preservative, while sorbate is a stabilizer that inhibits yeast reproduction. It works better in the presence of kmeta in inhibiting the yeast

    Neither are clarifiers/finings. If your wine is clear, it's just because it's clear. :D
     
  3. #3
    fluidmechanics

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 19, 2012
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    fluidmechanics

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 19, 2012
    Sorry I forgot to write sparkolloid too. I thought that sparkolloid was the inhibitor and the kmeta and sorbate were finings. I just had them mixed up. So can you use sparkolloid to clarify beer?
     
  5. #5
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Oct 19, 2012
    I imagine you could, although I've never thought to try it. It isn't the best clarifier out there, but I've used it in wine because it's vegetarian friendly.

    I'm not sure it would fix every haze issue in beer, though. If it's a yeast haze, it might work, but if it's a protein haze or other issue I don't think sparkelloid will do anything. Because of the need to boil it and stir it in thoroughly, I'd be hesitant to add it to my finished beer.
     
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    fluidmechanics

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 19, 2012
    Thank you for clarifying that earlier because I have found other threads about sparkolloid previously posted. It can be used in your secondary fermenter. But I couldn't find a clear answer if it affects bottling?
     
  7. #7
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted Oct 19, 2012
    I have no idea. I don't know how much yeast it would pull out. It's not all that effective, so it might work. But I really don't know.
     
  8. #8
    biochemedic

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    Posted Oct 19, 2012
    I used SuperKleer KC (a 2 stage fining process that uses kieselsol and chitosan) on a RyePA once that just wasn't clearing, and it bottle carbed just fine...I think even the most aggressive finings won't completely drop yeast out of solution, and if you're still worried, you can always just "accidentally" hit the yeast bed with your siphon for a second and pick up a bit of yeast into your bottling bucket. It doesn't take much yeast to bottle carb your beer...
     
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    fluidmechanics

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 19, 2012
    Thanks.
     
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