why no bmc stout?

why are there no bmc cheap stouts? 30pack cans for around $20? just add some chocolate malt, its not like there not a lot more expensive to brew. reason there not as popular is because majority are use to guiness as the normal stout, which is expensive compared to bmc

people drink dark coffee every day, which stouts have a slight hint of. why no cheap mass brewed canned stouts?

 

I think the answer is probably that the masses that currently purchase BMC are looking for something that is light, clear, and that they can see through.

The stigma with "dark" beers is that they are heavy, almost syrup, much of this because of the color. Just imagine, if Starbucks came out with a "clear coffee", I don't think it would go over to well.

 

Remember Crystal Pepsi?

 

Prolly the same reason why there are no BMC Porters or any BMC dark beers. There is not a market for it.

 

The whole thing about BMC drinkers is that there is coors light, and then there are dark beers, like michelob!

I think they fear the flavor!

 

I was recently surprised by a Michelob porter. Not technically BMC, but unexpected nonetheless. And it was pretty tasty.

-Joe

 

There is piss yellow, then their is dark beer. They resist it like the dark side.

 

Simple enough to make:

1 can BMC
1 tsp instant coffee

 

The closest thing I can think of is Yuengling Porter.

 

i believe stroh's and michelob both had a seasonal bock years ago.... they were average tasting at best so sales were piss poor therefore dropped ..... then again amber bock is made by michelob so there ya go

 

Guinness is kinda the BMC of stouts.

 

There is Michelob Amber Bock. Sometimes it's the only tolerable thing on tap.

 

bock is not equal to stout...

 

Yeah I know. Stream of consciousness thing, sorry.

 

Michelob also has a Dunkel Weisse and a Porter.

 

I actually like the new michelob pale ale. So far I think it's the best thing to come out of bmc for awhile.

I know, it's not a stout, just thought I would share

 

I went to a beer festival last night that wasnt strictly craft brews. The BMC vendors were showcasing some of their pseudo craft brews, anyway the stout on offer from Anheuser bush was "Bareknuckle Stout"
it was terrible
Bare Knuckle Stout - Anheuser-Busch, Inc. - BeerAdvocate

 

Bud now has their American ale. If that is successful, we may just get the BMC stout one day too (Apart from Guinness) Maybe we should be careful what we wish for.

 

I was hoping Bud American ale would be at least okay. I bought a six pack and drank one, gave the rest away.

The good thing is, maybe it'll get the masses interested in something more than BMC Lite; the bad thing is, it could replace Sam Adams and the like in places where there's only one beer on tap worth drinking.

 

Um...Guinness IS the BMC of Stouts......

It's really non threatening where stouts are concerned..not too...anything really, not too bitter, flavorful, full bodied, yadda yadda yadda....

That's why you find it in EVERY bar, even the bmc only sports bars...That's usually the only beer I end up ordering in most crappy chains and sports bars....

It really sucks though that often times in those places all their beers either come in a frosty mug or a plastic cup....

 

Agreed, and half the time their lines are sour and/or dirty from it not being ordered too often. Yuck. I think it's fine that Guinness Draught is served cold in a frosty mug there; as it warms up it tends to get more nasty.

Per the original question - there is no market for it as many others have been saying. BMC appeals to the average American beer drinker that just wants something light, easy to drink, doesn't overpower with any big flavors, and refreshing.

I suppose Michelob is the "craft beer" niche for Budweiser. I haven't had any of their offerings but have heard that they are at least halfway decent. Meh, I'll stick to the better stuff for a few bucks more.

/still haven't tried American Ale yet...

 

I had Bare Knuckle on tap at the St Louis HQ. I was in the bud tour. All of us from my HB club liked it, in fact it was one of the preferred beers out of all we had to choose from at the bar.

I think canned beer sucks in general. (Looking at the Beer Advocate...)

I actually hate food served on metal too. I HATE steak houses that do this. Its almost as bad getting SNPA in a frosted glass.

FWIW - I think the BA tasters might be biased since they knows its a AB product. Blind taste tests with Guinness would probably evoke the same comments.

 

I thought I inferred that. Maybe i worded it wrong.

 

Like others have said, BMC drinkers associate dark beer with heavy and coffee taste, and they think Guinness is heavy, thick, and tastes like they're drinking coffee.

So many people are like "I don't like dark beer", referring to anything that isn't yellow.

 

Oh I forgot about Bare Knuckle...I've had it both on tap and bottles...It's nothing to write home about...it is even less threatening that Guinness....

 

Noone reads you..and if they do, no one takes you serious...so I was just giving you some much do "cred" by backing you up

 

Guinness draught is the BMC of stouts. The real stuff....before they water it down for the draught crap, is so much better. I like the foreign stout (has a nice balance of malts and sourness)....and we'll see about extra foreign stout I'm making now (it's supposed to be a take off on the original pre-WWII versions that had higher gravity and real brett strains).

 

Yes - There are several other stouts that I would choose over BK. If I had BMC choices at a sporting event and they had Bud Ale or BK. I would get one of those over the standard BMC.

 

Bud American Ale is very good.

 

Most people will not agree with you on the "Very" part, but put bud heavy side by side with bud ale. I think 10 out of 10 home brewers will take the ale.

I bought a quart when it first came out and I thought it was OK. I enjoyed I also didn't have alot ready to drink either. I haven't bought any since then.

Lately, I have been making Miller Lite Clones with really big triple hopping. Its makes for a good summer session beer. Smells good and has taste and its cheap. Its also a good way to use up partial hop packets.
:rockin:

 

It is not good, it is not bad. It is passable. I don't dislike it. I just won't be buying it again unless I am in restaurant with limited choices. However, we all have different tastes, and yours is equally as valid as mine.

I am way cooler than you, though....So your opinion sucks!!

 

bmc= $20 30packs, to me. so guiness wouldent count

 

A bar here used to sell Bare Knuckle on draft but they've since switched to Guinness.

I wish they sold Guinness Foreign Extra in the USA. That's actually very tasty.

 

Damn you and your wishes
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They're probably losing a lot of sales to the craft brewers, now that your average American has more in the way of choice. Getting a little desperate perhaps?

 

Is that the general consensus with HBT members? I've tasted Bud Ale once....and I was thoroughly unimpressed. I saw all these comercials about how they used so "real malt". When I was trying out a restaurant, Bud Ale was the only non BMC on tap....so I figured I'd give it a go. Sure enough, it was way more of an amber color then regular bud.....but when it came to tasting, I was floored to taste the same rice/corn adjuncts and just a very slight difference in taste from regular Bud. Something tells me they *might* use a crystal malt and then ferment at ale temps, but that's it. It wasn't like some of the more positive reviews I heard of it saying it was a nice malty profile over a regular Bud.

So I think my take is if I had to drink a Bud, I'd get Bud Ale if it was the same price as regular Bud. If it was more, then I'd just get a Bud (IF I REALLY HAD TOO....IF THERE WAS NOTHING BUT BMC). When it comes to the bigger beer companies trying craft styles, my most favorite is Michelob Porter.

 

I'm talking likability. If it modest dif, well I get what I like. Its all about marginal value. What are you willing to pay for the beer? If its got a big premium well I'd say fark-it too.

 

Hmm, I didn't get much of an adjunct profile at all. If they told me it was 2-row some crystal malts and cascades I would believe it.

 

Yeah, that's mainly why I ask. When I first saw the commercials and reception on Bud Ale, it made it sound like it was a huge departure from their regular products. So they probably were setting me up for disapointment Was just wondering if other HBTers were as critical about it as I. I guess it shouldn't be a surprise that it's not a departure from their other beers, as they're into simple/mass produced vs variety of ingredients.

 

I didn't taste much in the way of hops...especially not a higher AA American hop. But I did get similar corn type notes I equate regular bud with....I just wasn't getting a strong American Ale with it. Give me a good California Ale any day of the week