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What's your favorite Grain Bill for an IPA?

Discussion in 'All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing' started by panicbuttonguy, May 4, 2011.

 

  1. #1
    panicbuttonguy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 4, 2011
    I'm working on some new recepies and wondering what YOUR "go-to" grain bill for an IPA is.
     
  2. #2
    Yooper

    Ale's What Cures You! Staff Member  

    Posted May 4, 2011
    I have two basic grainbills for an American IPA. One is all US two-row with 3% specialty grains. Usually Thomas Fawcett amber malt, but biscuit malt, aromatic malt or victory malt have worked well for me. The other is US two row with 6-7% crystal malt. Those are the only two I use for the most part.
     
  3. #3
    wildwest450

    Banned

    Posted May 4, 2011
    I like a couple of pounds of munich in with the 2 row base grain.

    _
     
  4. #4
    bernerbrau

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 4, 2011
    I'm about to make an IIPA with 93.6% 2-Row, 3.7% C120 and 3.7% Special B. I'll let you know how it turns out.

    Normal IPA though, I'd say 2-Row, up to 10% light to medium caramel malts, and mash low.
     
  5. #5
    shaynm

    Member

    Posted May 4, 2011
    5 Gallon Batch

    12 lbs 2-row
    1.5 lbs 60 L Crystal
    .5 lbs 40L Crystal

    I mash at 160 to leave some residual sugar so that there is some sweetness and body to balance the hop extravaganza that I employ.
     
  6. #6
    JuanMoore

    Supporting Member  

    Posted May 4, 2011
    My go-to for IPA's is ~93% US two row, ~3% crystal, ~3% specialty malt (most commonly victory, caravienne, or aromatic), and a little cara-pils for extra body and lacing.
     
  7. #7
    panicbuttonguy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 4, 2011
    When you say 3% do you mean 3% of the total grain bill? or 3% of the base malt?
     
  8. #8
    coypoo

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 4, 2011
    total
     
  9. #9
    jlpred55

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 4, 2011
    My favorite, hands down

    89% Rahr 2-row or 10.5 lbs
    9% Cane Sugar or 1lbs
    2% Thomas Fawcett Crystal 135L-165L or 4 oz

    I usually shoot for 1.060-1.062 OG

    Lets the hops shine but has enough pop to balance out 60-70 ibus nicely. It is a grainbill you do not want to over hop. I always mash low with it and like to hit 1.010 as an FG. So you have to match your mash temp with your yeast attenuation. I always use 1056 or US-05 and mash at 151 and can repeat it like clockwork.
     
  10. #10
    ArcaneXor

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 4, 2011
    I like all European malts in mine, with a base of pale malt and Vienna, and a blend of C-15 and C-55/65 at about 7% of the grain bill (combined).
     
  11. #11
    nutty_gnome

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 4, 2011
    Batch Size: 5.50 gal
    Boil Size: 7.03 gal
    Estimated OG: 1.075 SG
    Estimated Color: 6.9 SRM
    Estimated IBU: 78.3 IBU
    Brewhouse Efficiency: 78.00 %
    Boil Time: 60 Minutes

    Ingredients:
    Code:
    Amount        Item                                      Type         % or IBU      
    10 lbs        Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)            Grain        71.43 %       
    2 lbs         Vienna Malt (Briess) (3.5 SRM)            Grain        14.29 %       
    8.0 oz        Caramel Pils (8.0 SRM)                    Grain        3.57 %        
    8.0 oz        Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM)     Grain        3.57 %        
    
    ADD
    1 pound of cane sugar to boil
    1 Pkgs        Dry English Ale (White Labs #WLP007)      Yeast-Ale                  
    
    

    Note that is not carapils, it is caramel pils and is slightly different. Its what I like.
     
  12. #12
    beerkrump

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 4, 2011
    80% 2-row
    13% Honey Malt
    7% C-20
    OG=1.065, FG=1.012
    Mash @150°-152° and IBU's around 90.
     
  13. #13
    BA_from_GA

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 4, 2011
    Vienna as a base malt... Other than that i vary in the specialty grains, but Vienna is my absolute favorite base malt for IPAs.
     
  14. #14
    Malticulous

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 4, 2011
    10 pounds pale, 1 pound toasted raw wheat, one half pound crystal 60L.
     
  15. #15
    wheels4

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 5, 2011
    I just made one with 10lbs. 2 row 1lb. Vienna 1lb. crystal 60.
     
  16. #16
    MadRok

    Active Member

    Posted May 5, 2011
    Made a IIPA with 15 lb 2 row, 2 lb crystal 60L. Just kegged it today, tasted exactly how I hopped...I mean hoped.
     
  17. #17
    devils4ever

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 6, 2011
    12 lb Maris Otter
    3/4 lb Caramel 20L
    3/8 lb Caramel 40L
     
  18. #18
    strikertown

    Member

    Posted May 6, 2011
    11 lb 2 row
    .5lb crystal 40
    .5 lb crystal 10
    .5lb carapils
    1lb corn sugar

    It's basically the grain bill from the Pliny clone and I've done all sorts of hop combos with it and it really let's you do what you want with it.
     
  19. #19
    MadRok

    Active Member

    Posted May 6, 2011
    IPA's can be more creative than many other beers. Enjoy the freedom!
     
  20. #20
    TheBrewinator

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 6, 2011
    I haven't made too many IPA's yet (wife isnt a big hop lover, though I'm working on it) given the recent success of my pale ale using 50% vienna, my next IPA is going to be 90% vienna, 5% caramel 60L and 5% carapils. Given a few others on there have said they like vienna as an IPA base malt, I think it should turn out to be quite tasty.
     
  21. #21
    Ravenshead

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 6, 2011
    75% 2-row or MO
    10% Munich 10L
    7% Carapils
    7% Crystal 20L
    Round up on the Crystal to make 100%

    I am thinking abut replacing the Munich with Vienna and have been known to sub some wheat for the base malt.
     
  22. #22
    nikkormat

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 7, 2011
    Lost my notebook but I think my IPA is 11 lb 2-row, .5lb C20 and .5lb flaked barley.

    flaked barley is for stupidly good head retention. every beer I've brewed with .25-.5lbs of that stuff does not lose its head, ever.
     
  23. #23
    Malticulous

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 7, 2011
    I haven't had that experience. Hops make for head retention. My stouts take something extra to get it to keep. It lead me to eliminate the adjuncts in my stouts.
     
  24. #24
    autoferret

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 7, 2011
    Just brewed this yesterday. Working on my house IPA recipe.

    US 2-Row Malt 14lb 0oz 93.3 % 7.0 In Mash/Steeped
    US Caramel 40L Malt 8.00 oz 3.3 % 3.3 In Mash/Steeped
    US Carapils Malt 8.00 oz 3.3 % 0.1 In Mash/Steeped

    What to try a batch w/ about a 1lb of biscuit malt next time i brew. Did have any at the house this time.
     
  25. #25
    ajf

    Senior Member  

    Posted May 7, 2011
    95% MO
    5 % Crystal 55
    and Goldings late addition hops.

    -a.
     
  26. #26
    JohnMc

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 7, 2011
    90% Marris Otter and 10% Crystal in the 80-120 L range.
     
  27. #27
    RighteousFire

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 7, 2011
    2 Row Base 90.9%
    CaraMunich 9.1%
    80% efficiency = 1.060

    Centennial Bittering, Cascade throughout

    I like my IPA drinkable so I can have a few and not be out for the count.
     
  28. #28
    jaginger

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 7, 2011
    Does carapils leave residual sweetness like a crystal (C40 or 60)? I like to add it for head retention, but i wonder if i am "doubling up" on crystal malts by having crystal and carapils in there.

    For example, if i went

    93% base
    7% carapils

    is that going to have a similar taste to

    93% base
    7% C40
    ?


    Or should i make it:

    88% base
    7% crystal
    5% carapils
    ?

    I'm trying to get a good feel for different base malts in an IPA (MO, 2-row, vienna mainly), but want to add a little something more than just the base.
     
  29. #29
    autoferret

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 7, 2011
    not sure if you can... but brew a batch of each and let it age and try them side by side to find the one u like the best! i'm starting to do that with my brews to refine the grains and hops.
     
  30. #30
    ArcaneXor

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 7, 2011
    I like my IPAs pretty dry. So personally, I prefer adding a little bit of wheat instead of carapils. Both contribute to head retention and have a fairly neutral flavor, but carapils is much less fermentable than wheat malt. ~1/2 lb of wheat is all it takes.
     
  31. #31
    Gwitz

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 7, 2011
    I haven't settled on a fave yet, but my next IPA will be 16# pilsner 8oz brown/amber malt or biscuit.
     
  32. #32
    spagyric

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 8, 2011
    I don't know what my favorite is, but I just brewed my first IPA Monday. It was:

    10# domestic pale ale malt
    3# 20L munich
    1.4# 20L caramel

    60min infusion mash at 150*
    OG: 1.066

    Use all Willamette hops to see what their character is like. Used a 2L starter of WLP001 decanted for six gallons. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I like it.

    I love that this thread appeared around the same time that I was brewing my first IPA. :mug:
     
  33. #33
    jeffjm

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 8, 2011
    Right now, my IPA is a SMaSH with MO and EKG. Not sure how long that will last, I think the next one might get some Victory malt and maybe some UK pale ale malt, cutting back on the Maris Otter.
     
  34. #34
    panicbuttonguy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 10, 2011
    My last IPA was 13#2 Row, 1#C10L, .5#C20L, 1#Carapils.
     
  35. #35
    fatguy-littlecoat

    Well-Known Member

    Posted May 11, 2011
    10lb 2 row
    4lb vienna
    2lb munich
    1lb honey malt
    .5lb carapils
     
  36. #36
    tagz

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 20, 2013
    Wanted to bump this old thread to see if people have any updated thoughts.
     
  37. #37
    neosapien

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 20, 2013
    82.6% 2 row
    8.7% torrified wheat
    4.3% munich
    4.3% vienna

    centennial, simcoe, citra in various proportions at 60, 30, 12, 10, 2, flameout.
     
  38. #38
    LovesIPA

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 20, 2013
    I don't really care for crystal malts in an IPA.

    A white IPA I brewed recently hopped with all Nelson Sauvin was amazing. I highly recommend it with any fruity, high-aroma hop variety. Nelson Sauvin smells like grapefruit and white wine.

    That bill was:
    76% 2-row
    18% wheat
    4% carapils
    2% acid malt

    And I will be brewing it again this Saturday.

    Normally I use something like:
    86% 2-row
    10% munich
    4% carapils

    BTW wheat is AMAZING in IPA grain bills. The head is like a puffy white cloud. I highly recommend you try it.
     
  39. #39
    plankbr

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 20, 2013
    Hop however you like, but this came out simply fantastic! I've used the grain bill 2 times now with different hops ( 1 - posted below and 2 - Galena for bittering and all Galaxy hops).
    *********************************************************
    Title: Fresh Squeezed IPA

    Brew Method: All Grain
    Style Name: Imperial IPA
    Boil Time: 60 min
    Batch Size: 5.25 gallons (fermentor volume)
    Boil Size: 6.5 gallons
    Boil Gravity: 1.057
    Efficiency: 76% (brew house)

    STATS:
    Original Gravity: 1.070
    Final Gravity: 1.012
    ABV (standard): 7.64%
    IBU (tinseth): 65.31
    SRM (morey): 9.31

    FERMENTABLES:
    11 lb - American - Pale 2-Row (83%)
    1 lb - American - Munich - Light 10L (7.5%)
    12 oz - American - Caramel / Crystal 60L (5.7%)
    0.5 lb - American - Wheat (3.8%)

    HOPS:
    0.5 oz - Nugget, Type: Pellet, AA: 13.3, Use: Boil for 60 min, IBU: 22.68
    1 oz - Citra, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 21.15
    1 oz - Mosaic, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.7, Use: Boil for 15 min, IBU: 21.49
    1 oz - Citra, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Boil for 0 min
    1 oz - Citra, Type: Pellet, AA: 12.5, Use: Dry Hop for 5 days

    YEAST:
    Fermentis / Safale - American Ale Yeast US-05
    Starter: No
    Form: Dry
    Attenuation (custom): 83%
    Flocculation: Medium
    Optimum Temp: 59 - 75 F
    Fermentation Temp: 68 F
    Pitch Rate: 0.75 (M cells / ml / deg P)

    NOTES:
    Mash: 4.1 gallons @ 165* (1 Hour) - Achieves a 152* mash

    Sparge: 6.2 gallons @ 170* (10 min)
     
  40. #40
    stevedasleeve

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 20, 2013
    These days I do 6% malted wheat, 3% medium British crystal (65 or so) and the base malt is equal parts maris otter and pilsner, mash at 152. For imperial I up the crystal a touch, add Munich and cane sugar, and go all MO, mash at 148, for double I half the crystal and add cane sugar, go all pilsner, mash at 150.

    Steve da sleeve
     
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