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What are the disadvantages of a weak boil?

Discussion in 'Beginners Beer Brewing Forum' started by kef300, Jun 6, 2014.

 

  1. #1
    kef300

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 6, 2014
    Lets say the heater doesn't provide much BTUs, but is able to take a 6 gallon wort to break a boil, but when leaving the lid off will slow down to a weak boil.

    Besides longer boiling times or adjusted pre-boil volumes (I adjusted my beersmith equipment to boil-off 0.25gal per hour) what are other disadvantages?

    Will it produce off-flavors? Assume the pot is kept uncovered (no DMS).

    My next purchase is going to be a proper burner, but this is what I'm working with right now.
     
  2. #2
    pricelessbrewing

    Brewer's Friend QA Tester

    Posted Jun 6, 2014
    Just to be clear, you cannot boil with the lid on as the dms won't boil off.
     
  3. #3
    kef300

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 6, 2014
    Exactly. That's what I meant. I usually bring it to a boil with the lid on and as soon as the boiling point is reached I take the lid off and leave it off. I don't even leave it partially on as I don't want to take the chance of some DMS condensating on the underside of the partial cover and falling back into the wort.
     
  4. #4
    kenny_d

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 6, 2014
    Possible scorching of the wort at the bottom of the kettle is possible. Do you get a good hot break?
     
  5. #5
    GilaMinumBeer

    Half-fast Prattlarian  

    Posted Jun 6, 2014
    Boiling is boiling. The only difference between a vigourous boil and a timid boil is evaporation.
     
  6. #6
    kh54s10

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Jun 6, 2014
    If it is actually boiling I don't think you risk much, if anything. as long as you have dialed in your boil off rate. Otherwise you will end up with too much wort and a lower than expected OG.
     
  7. #7
    asterix404

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Jun 6, 2014
    Boiling is not only boiling though. You can still have a simmer or a light boil. One the stove especially it is difficult. What you worry about is DMS particularly with Pils malt. The more vigourous the boil, the more stuff is kicked off. I am also guessing that hop isomerisation happens more with stronger boils but I am not sure about that.
     
  8. #8
    hunter_le five

    Sheriff Underscore

    Posted Jun 6, 2014
    Agreed. A weak boil will have a harder time driving off DMS. I have experienced this personally with a pilsner. Had trouble with my burner, and only managed a weak boil for most of the 90 minutes. Definitely had DMS flavors in the finished product.

    Next time only did a 60 minute boil but it was very vigorous. No DMS flavor at all in the finished product. Not very scientific I know, but good enough for me. I now make sure all my boils are "vigorous".

    I'm sure with most respects "boiling is boiling" (sanitation, isomerization, maillard reactions, etc), but with DMS, I'm convinced you need a strong boil, at least when dealing with Pilsner malt.
     
  9. #9
    kh54s10

    Supporting Member  

    Posted Jun 6, 2014
    It all stems from how weak is weak. True if it is just barely boiling DMS is a concern (all grain, minimal with extract as most is already boiled off in creating the extract.). If it is a steady roiling it is probably OK. Large proportions of Pilsner malt will accentuate DMS problems though.
     
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