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Using PEX tubing for Mash Tun manifold?

Discussion in 'Kettles, Mash Tuns & Hot Liquor Tanks' started by sea2summit3, Oct 23, 2009.

 

  1. #1
    sea2summit3

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    After spending some time looking at CPVC in Home Depot, I noticed PEX tubing. I searched the forums, but haven't found any threads regarding using this material as a manifold for my 10 gal round cooler mash tun. With a temp rating of 200 degrees F, this should handle mash and sparging temps, no? What do you all think?

    As I see it:
    Pros
    • Cheap! :rockin:
    • for potable water- no leaking chemicals
    • can handle mash and sparge temps
    • will fit into CPVC fittings (also cheap)
    • flexible so I can design a manifold like figure 163 on Palmer's website. http://www.howtobrew.com/appendices/appendixD-1.html Plus, it would use a lot less fittings than rigid copper pipe or CPVC

    Possible Cons
    • Slits (w/ a hacksaw) might "bend" open to a larger slit. Drill holes instead?

    Finally, with batch sparging, should I use 1/2" or 3/4" tubing?
     
  2. #2
    BargainFittings

    Vendor / Owner  

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    Pex will work great. Its inert like plastic used in the brew buckets. The only downside is the fittings are a bit expensive. You can use brass sharkbite fittings with them.

    CON: you cannot glue pex to CPVC fittings. You could attach them to cpvc with a screw or some other mechanical fastener.

    Per http://www.ppfahome.org/pex/faqpex.html

    Can PEX be joined with solvent cement?

    No. PEX cannot be joined with solvent cement, glues or heat fusion. PEX is installed using only mechanical fittings or compression fittings.
     
  3. #3
    sea2summit3

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Oct 23, 2009
    Thanks. After playing around with CPVC fittings in Home Depot, I'm not too concerned with having to buy manufacture recommended fittings for the PEX. The CPVC fittings are cheap and fit snug, with the added advantage of being able to disassemble easily for cleaning.
     
  4. #4
    oceanselv

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 15, 2009
    I also us a round cooler for my mash tun. I attached some PEX tubing to the lid for use as my sparge arm. I attached the tubing with zip ties and drilled 1/8 holes every 2 inches at varying angles for my sparge arm. So far, it has worked well
     
  5. #5
    sea2summit3

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 22, 2009
    The sparge arm sounds like it would work well, but I gave up on making a manifold with it. Pex on a rectaugular (or any other (90 degree based manifold)) would work great and be economical, but it wan't very easy to work with when making a wound manifold for my "drink" cooler.
     
  6. #6
    oldschool

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 22, 2009
    pex is bad ass
     
  7. #7
    pilotdane

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 22, 2009
    The only thing I don't like about PEX is that it grows in length as it gets hot. It is not a big issue if using short pieces. If using longer sections putting a loop or a "hump" in the line allows it to grow & shrink without putting strain on your fittings. I also like PEX because it insulates somewhat. There is less heat loss through the tubing and you can touch the tubing without getting burned.

    PEX fitting can be much more inexpensive if you buy them from a plumbing supply wholesaler that usually deals with contractors. I've found Lowes & Home Depot to be at least double the price. Shark Bite fittings are simple to use, can connect to CPVC, Copper and of course PEX but they are expensive. The simple PEX fittings & copper rings are much cheaper but you need a special tool (expensive) to crimp the rings. If you just need to make a couple connections use the Shark Bite fittings. If you are doing a complex system and maybe want to add a bathroom to your house then buy the PEX crimper tool and use the cheaper fittings.
     
  8. #8
    pnh2atl

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 22, 2009
    I've got about 150' of PEX from a radiant floor project that I did. I was hoping to be able to use it when I create my brew house in our barn someday. Which reminds me I need to go get a lottery ticket.
     
  9. #9
    BargainFittings

    Vendor / Owner  

    Posted Dec 22, 2009
    You could make a round manifold with a Tee fitting and loop it.

    Take a heat gun to it if it doesn't want to conform to that tight a circle.
     
  10. #10
    oldschool

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Dec 23, 2009
    I did that exact thing for a sparge manifold
     
  11. #11
    sjlammer

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 14, 2010
    I don't think you can use hot water heater pex (white stuff) for drinking water applications...
     
  12. #12
    BargainFittings

    Vendor / Owner  

    Posted Apr 14, 2010
    PEX is used as a replacement product for copper in hot and cold applications. It is a type of polyethylene plastic similar to the brewing buckets we use.

    White pex is the same as the colored pex without the colorant added.
     
  13. #13
    Boar Beer

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Apr 14, 2010
    We used Pex tube for our manifold. It is hard to bend into a tight circle. I used a heat gun to soften it up. I put about 12 1/4 holes in the bottom and along with a false bottom the system works great. We used a short piece of regular tubing to connect the drain so everything comes apart easily.
    You can see more at.
    http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f51/squam-lakes-brewery-pictures-144764/

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  14. #14
    killerzeek

    Active Member

    Posted Apr 14, 2010
    I live in a fairly new house (2007) and all the plumbing is done with PEX, except for the first 18 inches out of the hot water heater because of building code. So that if the hot water heater malfunctions it wont melt off the pex.

    I use PEX for my sparge arm and it is wonderful. You can use the actual crimp tool and the suggested rings but they are expensive. I used a t- fitting for underground sprinklers and some screw clamps. This method works great, but it will not work if you are going to put the fittings under pressure, ie house plumbing. When I added a utility sink to our garage i started with the screw clamps only to find it leaking like a fountain. I ended up using sharkbite fittings, which are quite expensive, $7-9 each. But they work great, are very simple to use and can connect anything to anything. PEX-copper-CPVC-PVP-polypipe. The key is to have a square cut on the pipes that you are connecting.
     
  15. #15
    jpc

    Well-Known Member  

    Posted Apr 15, 2010
    ...don't we all...
     
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