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Using Mr Malty Calculator

Discussion in 'Fermentation & Yeast' started by TAK, Feb 22, 2012.

 

  1. #1
    TAK

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2012
    Ok, it seems the more I read about stepping up a yeast starter the more confused I get. I'm thinking about doing my first yeast starter for my next batch.

    Lets say I'm aiming for an OG of 1.06 and my yeast's production date is 1/1/12. If I slide the growth factor bar to the right, it tells me I need 4.21 quarts of starter with 1 vial.

    So, if I start by pitching the vial into 2 cups (1/2 qt) of water mixed with 1/2 cup of DME, what do I need to do to get to my 4.21 quarts? Will I get close enough if I pitch my the first 2 cups (after the krausen falls) into an additonal gallon of wort?
     
  2. #2
    thisoneguy

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2012
    If you want to step up starters, you should check out http://yeastcalc.com. This calc gives nearly the same numbers as Mr. Malty, and is a lot easier to use for stepping up starters.

    It's the yeast calculator that I use, and another HBT member created it.
     
  3. #3
    TAK

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2012
    I've seen this too but wasn't too sure how the actual step up process works. If I enter 0.473 L (same as the 2 cups in my hypothetical above), then a 1st step of 2.25 L with intermittent shaking gets me right to the pitch rate for 5 gal of 1.06.

    So, I guess my question is, does the 2.25 L include the 0.473 L starter or not? Am I adding 2.25 L of fresh wort after a day or so of ferm? Or is the 2.25 supposed to be my end volume, so I'd only add 1.777 L?


    On a side note, how often is intermittent shaking? It makes a big difference in the calculator if no aeration method is chosen instead. So, I assume it still makes a big difference if what I might consider intermittent shaking is say half as often as what's assumed in the calc.
     
  4. #4
    badbrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2012
    I think you may be confusing the box on the left with the rest. It is only a guide for how much dme to add. Shake (swirl) as often as you have time for.

    step 1: boil, cool, pitch, shake, chill, decant.
    step 2: boil (no yeast), cool, pitch (yeast from step 1), shake, chill, decant
    step 3: pitch in 5 gal.
     
  5. #5
    TAK

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Feb 22, 2012
    Nice!

    I was absolutely confusing the box on the left as the first step.

    Cheers :mug:
     
  6. #6
    Blackhawkbrew

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    Thanks for posting the yeastcalc site thisoneguy! I like it much better than mr. malty!!
     
  7. #7
    Brewskii

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    *GASP*

    ...............Blasphemy !!!! : D
     
  8. #8
    pelipen

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    Anybody else compare these with Brewzor for Android? I get wildly different results for the same size starter steps, same method.
    Don't know which to trust. Will compare against math in spreadsheet tomorrow.
     
  9. #9
    kmonty

    Well-Known Member

    Posted Apr 12, 2012
    +1 for the recommendation of yeastcalc.com! Great site! Plenty of excellent, relevant information and is very ease to use. Thanks!
     
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